1 Timothy 2: 12

12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

To my Christians and anyone else. Correct or incorrect?

LOL bro in 2021 it's the other way around. Ask the lefty rage mob that frequents this sub

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this is the reasoning I use with Christians who claim that 'homosexuality is a sin'. If they can selectively ignore many other passages of the Bible, why can't they just ignore the anti-gay stuff as well?

It's so easy and obvious. If they did that, they'd be doing their religion a huge favor in terms of sustainability and acceptance.

Wot?

You didn't answer the question.

Let me clarify the question...

Is this the moral position pertaining to the female sex or is it immoral?

This post was edited by trvegamer on Apr 22 2021 03:25am

It's the other way round and it's immoral

First of all bible was not written by God. It may have been inspired and certainly a long line of translation and interpretations have scewed the original texts there is no way to tell. Thirdly if you believe bible on literal basis then you are lost my friend truly.

If God wanted something he would either make it impossible to not be so or made some very clear instructions that would be updated/translated and directly communicated without an obscurity of ancient texts that are highly debated and outdated

Ask yourself who is Timothy? What's his involvement?

This post was edited by addone on Apr 22 2021 03:54am

She doesn't need to be quiet, as long as the cooking and cleaning gets done in proper time.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Apr 22 2021 03:56am

(subject to interpretation. the correct method is to try to discover the authors intent.)

" assume authority over a man"
(should a woman "assume" authority over a man? what is your answer? ...........and no dom jokes)

1 Timothy 2:12
King James Version

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

during service its rude to interrupt (for both man and woman). if i remember correctly this scripture was directed to a specific church where the women were being a problem. New converts from paganism. In some pagan religions women are the authority. In christianity its a equal partner ship

1 Corinthians 7:4
King James Bible
The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
(equality and giving to one another)


u·surp
/yo͞oˈsərp/
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verb: usurp; 3rd person present: usurps; past tense: usurped; past participle: usurped; gerund or present participle: usurping

take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force.
"Richard usurped the throne"

take the place of (someone in a position of power) illegally; supplant.
"the Hanoverian dynasty had usurped the Stuarts"

encroach or infringe upon (someone's rights)





"...selectively ignore many other passages..."
(is a false path)

i spent my life irreligious. christianity? will you give up your worldly ways (your sin)(serving your flesh) for God. Will you chose your self or God. I had to give up the booze among many other things (i never imagined a world living sober). The holy spirit gives one the power to do such things and become a new creature.

It's fiction, get over it. Have you lived in reality, women don't shut up.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Apr 22 2021 06:01am

the passage wasnt there to help men stay happy in marriage back then

it was to keep decadent values from destroying societies and to keep women at home pregnant and breeding more laborers\warriors for the state\nation\kingdom etc
when you understand the usefulness of mass religion to keep empires intact, it makes alot more sense


take a look at middle eastern countries
you dont have women cheating and house wrecking then leaving their spouse and taking the kids house dog etc with her
cause theyd just cut her ears and nose off way before it went that far

fall of rome 2.0