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Apr 15 2021 03:45pm
https://www.axios.com/konstantin-kilimnik-manafort-russian-intelligence-ea03b416-e1eb-4fb3-b983-ffbacbafaaa3.html

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The big picture: The Senate Intelligence Committee's report on 2016 Russian election interference assessed that Kilimnik, who worked with former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort as a lobbyist for the pro-Russia president of Ukraine, is a Russian intelligence officer.

The investigation found that on numerous occasions, Manafort sought to pass sensitive internal polling data and campaign strategy to Kilimnik. The committee was unable to determine why or what Kilimnik did with that information, in part due to the pair's use of encrypted messaging apps.
The committee did obtain "some information" suggesting Kilimnik "may have been connected" to Russia's hacking and leaking of Democratic emails. The section detailing these findings is largely redacted, however.


The intrigue: The U.S. government stated for the first time Thursday that Kilimnik provided Russian intelligence "with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy" during the 2016 election — filling a key link that had been left unanswered by both special counsel Robert Mueller and the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The Treasury Department also noted that Kilimnik, who is wanted by the FBI on charges of obstruction of justice, sought to promote the false narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election.
He also sought to orchestrate a plan to return former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to power, according to Treasury. Yanukovych fled to Russia in 2014 after being ousted in the Ukrainian Revolution.


Link to Treasury announcement:
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126

We already knew that Trump's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, passed internal campaign information to a Russian intelligence officer(Kilimnik). Now the US government is stating that Kilimnik "provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy". This all happened in secret.

The definition of collusion:

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secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose


Therefore, collusion confirmed. Considering Manafort lied to the FBI about contacts with Kilimnik, and Trump pardoned Manafort, it's reasonable to conclude Trump knew about these contacts.

I was right all along. The Trump campaign colluded with Russia, and Trump probably knew about it.
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Apr 15 2021 03:53pm
You ate that up right away. "The US government states..." usually precedes a bunch of BS to justify an agenda. I read the publication on Russian hacking, it's speculation not fact. Maybe what you found is true, just seem really suspect given current events and that Mueller investigation concluded.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Apr 15 2021 03:53pm
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Apr 15 2021 04:15pm
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You ate that up right away. "The US government states..." usually precedes a bunch of BS to justify an agenda. I read the publication on Russian hacking, it's speculation not fact. Maybe what you found is true, just seem really suspect given current events and that Mueller investigation concluded.


For any nation it's hard to accept such a level of treason and national security loss and shame.
This is why so much shit is redacted: " Hey look in the details how they got us "
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Apr 15 2021 04:23pm
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For any nation it's hard to accept such a level of treason and national security loss and shame.
This is why so much shit is redacted: " Hey look in the details how they got us "


Very hard these days indeed. If true, embarrassing as hell for our 'experts'. "Hey, it took us 5 years to investigate an election 2 cycles back, but we got them, just in time for Biden sanctions"
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Apr 15 2021 05:37pm
Hillary's emails
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Apr 15 2021 06:53pm
I mean, we already knew that Manafort was passing information. Only insanely dishonest people like Bogie were arguing that Kilimnik wasn't associated with Russia.
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Apr 15 2021 08:37pm
Meanwhile, the intelligence community's other eye is being blackened:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/us-intelligence-officially-walks-back-claim-russia-paid-bounties-us-troops-afghanistan

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Since The New York Times published a story in June 2020 that claimed US intelligence concluded Russia offered bounties to militants in Afghanistan to kill US troops, it has slowly been revealed that the report had no basis. On Thursday, putting the final nail in the coffin of the Russian bounty hoax, the Biden administration walked back the claim.

"The United States intelligence community assesses with low to moderate confidence that Russian intelligence officers sought to encourage Taliban attacks US and coalition personnel in Afghanistan in 2019 and perhaps earlier," a senior administration official told The Daily Beast.

As The Daily Beast report explains, "low to moderate confidence" means "the intelligence agencies have found the story is, at best, unproven — and possibly untrue."
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Apr 15 2021 09:00pm
nobody ever said their wasnt russian collusion.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
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Apr 15 2021 09:08pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Apr 15 2021 08:00pm)
nobody ever said their wasnt russian collusion.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


shh they only care about corruption when it involves the overgrown oompa loompa
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Apr 15 2021 09:25pm
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The whole bountygate story was suuuuch a transparent hit piece during an election year... only gullible fools ever bought into it. (Oh wait...)

As I pointed out at the time, offering bounties on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan made ZERO strategical sense whatsoever for the Russians.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 15 2021 09:25pm
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