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Mar 10 2021 05:06pm
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-biden-administration-is-making-a-habit-of-ousting-officials-from-non-partisan-positions/

An interesting article highlighting a shocking number of non-partisan officials fired by the Biden administration within the first few months of office.

In essence, the Biden administration has specifically targeted non-partisan, independent agencies, agencies that have no executive authority, in an effort presumably either influence their "non-partisan" recommendations or in some sort of vendetta against the appointees themselves. Needless to say, this seems completely counter-intuitive to Biden's own professed desire for unity, and in direct contradiction to his own stated views on the matter. Worse, it appears that Joe Biden is now guilty of destroying democratic norms, or so he charged the Trump administration after a few similar firings late in the administration.

Unfortunately, and I'm sure to the shock of many, our media institutions have been remarkably slow on the uptake.
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Mar 10 2021 05:16pm
delusion old fool swamp demon politician lied to everyone. least no more mean tweets, but the media and politicians still talk more about the mean tweeter.

whens that address to joint session of Congress happening? probably after the first $1400 (at best) out of $2000 promised checks clear.

so April 1, which would be a fitting day
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Mar 10 2021 05:18pm
Seems like business as usual, imo. The easiest way to insure Administrative branch obstructionism when your party is not in office is to stack the bureaucracy when you are. The easiest way to prevent your opponents from doing the same thing in return is to contest every single decision, as though you're still in power and the actual President has no authority over the Executive Branch.

Can't really claim you didn't know this would occur, nor can you feign surprise that the majority of the media is relatively silent about any dismissal they can't chalk up to "this person is evil".
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Mar 10 2021 06:25pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 10 2021 06:18pm)
Seems like business as usual, imo. The easiest way to insure Administrative branch obstructionism when your party is not in office is to stack the bureaucracy when you are. The easiest way to prevent your opponents from doing the same thing in return is to contest every single decision, as though you're still in power and the actual President has no authority over the Executive Branch.

Can't really claim you didn't know this would occur, nor can you feign surprise that the majority of the media is relatively silent about any dismissal they can't chalk up to "this person is evil".


Clearly we knew it was going to occur, nor is it a surprise that it happened. But it's nevertheless important to point out how hollow this "the democratic sky is falling" rhetoric has turned out to be.
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Mar 10 2021 06:29pm
The media stopped pretending to care about things on Jan 21st
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Mar 10 2021 06:32pm
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Clearly we knew it was going to occur, nor is it a surprise that it happened. But it's nevertheless important to point out how hollow this "the democratic sky is falling" rhetoric has turned out to be.


Of course! No, I agree with you there, but we already knew the rhetoric was just empty gibberish. And those who support federalizing everything and socializing everything are 100% in favor of every action that has occurred to date.

I guess my question is, who's your target audience? Those who are already aware, those who support it and don't give two shits less what you think, or those who are uninformed, and will turn to CNN and read an article on why all of these firings are a good thing, and disregard you anyway, because CNN is a "trusted source"?

Not gonna lie, I post here because... Well... I like to argue. I try to be as serious as possible, but we knew this was coming, it happened with Clinton, it happened with Obama, and it was bound to happen with Biden. It SHOULD have happened with GWB and Trump, but both Presidents were to worried about their public image to do their job. So... When Biden won, I opted to sit back and simply watch the magic happen. What's your goal?
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Mar 10 2021 06:51pm
Trump filled these organizations with incredibly partisan appointments. I posted about the accelerated pace in the final days of his presidency as it as it was happening.

You are posting about a correction of the norm by the Biden administration lol



I really hope your title is intended to be ironic, because if not.... wow.

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Mar 10 2021 07:04pm
The Biden admin is also disrespecting the spirit of the Constitution in its push for "equity", i.e. socially engineering equal outcomes instead of striving for equality/equal opportunity (in the literally meaning of the term).

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/02/merrick-garland-misleads-on-equity-and-equality/

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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 10 2021 07:32pm)
Of course! No, I agree with you there, but we already knew the rhetoric was just empty gibberish. And those who support federalizing everything and socializing everything are 100% in favor of every action that has occurred to date.

I guess my question is, who's your target audience? Those who are already aware, those who support it and don't give two shits less what you think, or those who are uninformed, and will turn to CNN and read an article on why all of these firings are a good thing, and disregard you anyway, because CNN is a "trusted source"?

Not gonna lie, I post here because... Well... I like to argue. I try to be as serious as possible, but we knew this was coming, it happened with Clinton, it happened with Obama, and it was bound to happen with Biden. It SHOULD have happened with GWB and Trump, but both Presidents were to worried about their public image to do their job. So... When Biden won, I opted to sit back and simply watch the magic happen. What's your goal?


This isn't it. Similar things have happened in previous administrations. Trump certainly did it in a few notable instances. Whether nearly at the current pace or not is hard to say.

The point of this thread is to deconstruct one of the many falsehoods underpinning the notion that Trump was an existential threat to democracy.
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Mar 10 2021 07:28pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 10 Mar 2021 17:08)
This isn't it. Similar things have happened in previous administrations. Trump certainly did it in a few notable instances. Whether nearly at the current pace or not is hard to say.

The point of this thread is to deconstruct one of the many falsehoods underpinning the notion that Trump was an existential threat to democracy.


Nah, Trump mass firing Obama appointments wasn't a thing in the first couple months of his term. He couldn't even get his cabinet picks confirmed, and unlike Biden, he didn't simply install them as "Acting [insert position here]".

Oddly enough, Trump, for all his faults, did his best to follow Constitutional norms. Biden has not. Because of this, getting down to a baseline level such as this didn't really happen until the end of his term. And because of that, the amount of internal obstructionism and leaking was insurmountable.

In one respect, Biden is actively doing it right. The POTUS is the CEO of the Administrative Branch of government. They are in control of who is employed and who is not. If Biden blanket fired EVERYONE and installed whoever the fuck he pleases, good for him. He's President. My concern is not Biden's actions in this regard, it's the Dems nonstop wailing that Trump made even a halfhearted effort to do the same. That's literally part of the President's job ffs.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Mar 10 2021 07:40pm
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