So if China want to take over Taiwan like they absolutly want then USA has almost no choice to defend it or they will fall kind off

if they let Taiwan get eat by China then all allies of USA will realise they are worthless and dont respect their promise which mean USA would fall but if they defend Taiwan then its China vs USA


what you guys think will happen? its escalated alot lately already

Every country has already realized that the USA is worthless. Nothing new. Only country that hasn’t realized that the USA is worthless.. is the USA.

China cannot have any interest in going to war against the U.S. (yet).

Joe Biden sent out several aircraft carriers to the South China sea to defend Taiwan. I was pleasantly surprised that he isn't a pushover in regards to China.

If the US decides to intervene in a Taiwanese defensive war, the US Navy is well-equipped to do so, mainly via submarine control of the Taiwan Straight.

The US shouldn't be attempting to police the world in the first place. We aren't even the same continent. Taiwan isn't even our problem, and the consolidation and realization of the "One China" policy will impact Japan, Australia, India, the EU, and Russia greatly, and have virtually no impact on the US.

Frankly, let them take Taiwan. Not our problem. Tired of the US fighting everyone else's wars.

It absolutely is our problem. For example, we heavily depend on Taiwanese high-tech manufacturing and letting that fall into China's hands is a terrible, terrible idea. Until we cut economic ties with Taiwan and move them to other countries such as South Korea, it's in our interest to defend them.

Most experts on both sides agree that Taiwan is of great importance for multiple reasons Unfortunately, the public does not. It is paramount for these experts to educate the general population on WHY Taiwan is important because it's not really clear from an economic or national security perspective.

Then there is the whole global stability aspect but that's more of a secondary effect.

Um... High Tech isn't even the most important thing we've "depended on". It was steel. Taiwan's steel repurposing led the world for decades. We've already transitioned to Chinese steel, and China is the #1 nation we export coal to, and a good portion of that coal is used in the production of raw steel that's then shipped back to the US to be utilized in manufactured goods.

In nearly every "hi tech" field where we trade with Taiwan, we're also supplied by China themselves, Japan, and even India.

We don't "need" Taiwan. Further, your attempt to indicate that Taiwanese production and trade would simply "stop" by being governed by China is foolish. China is not known for destroying the infrastructure of areas they occupy. Instead, they simply change the management. Our Taiwanese trade would continue as always but for a brief interruption, with a minor difference that it'd simply be an extension of our Chinese trade.

Regardless, these are Sovereign nations. It's not our problem to mediate their disputes. We are not a world government, and we do not have any right to dictate how the world operates, merely our own nation. Again, those who'll be the most impacted by China occupying Taiwan is Japan, Australia, Russia, India, and the EU in general. AKA the majority of the UN should be concerned FAR MORE about the fate of Taiwan than the US. US life will continue as usual no matter what the result of Taiwan is. So if Taiwan matters so much to the rest of the world, maybe it's time the rest of the world gets off their ass and does something about it, rather than screaming "Help! USA, come fight our wars! We hate you and think you suck, but come die for us!"

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 3 2021 08:44pm

We are currently fighting a shadow war with China.

Giving them victory on any front would be a HUGE mistake.

Control of Taiwan makes it nearly impossible to force project in Asia. The United States would struggle to defend Guam, let alone Japan and the Korean peninsula.

Giving the Chinese leverage over critical industries is about as intelligent as allowing them to dominate 5G.