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Sep 28 2020 12:39pm
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/new-project-veritas-video-voter-fraud-in-ilhan-omars-district/
https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1310638504129556480

The latest project veritas secret video operation records evidence of something investigative journalists have been digging into for years in minneapolis, a large operation pretty much right out in the open of democratic activists harvesting mail-in ballots from senior citizens and immigrants and filling them out, even paying for the ballots, at the large somali and/or elderly communities at cedar riverside and the horn towers. Their video shows one such ballot harvester claiming to have 300 ballots from the august primary, some paid for with cash and many blank- besides the obvious illegality of filling in their ballots, collecting more than 3 ballots to turn in is illegal under minnesota laws on ballot harvesting.

But don't let o'queef take the credit for / taint the perception of something that's been an open secret in Minnesota for years. Two unnamed elected representatives had brought information about the ballot harvesting to the FBI and investigators had already been briefed in a sit-down meeting (one of the two is clearly rep. Steve Drazkowski), and independent journalists had been digging into it and had only gotten off-the-record sources and hearsay- PV just got 'invited' and managed to catch someone on tape saying what we already heard them say anonymously.

The basic gist of it is that the Somali community gets away with this because all the various frauds are so absurdly rampant and unchecked and with zero accountability that they don't even bother to cover their tracks. I mean, its the same story with how Obama's DNA testing for family reunification visas used for chain migration showed 80-90%+ weren't biologically related, and when Ilhan's father Nur Said Elmi died from Covid-19 this year, the high profile Somali community members posting eulogies of him on social media just openly named him as colonel and named his family using the real identities and siblings Ilhan has denied publicly as she maintains the ridiculous immigration fraud denial. And last year, a group of Somali voters were busted at the polls chaining together as each other's "helper" to register non-citizens to vote and receive mail-in ballots, which only got discovered and charged because a poll worker recognized the same person playing both an invalid on one trip and an invalid's helper on another. Probably just the tip of that iceberg.

At any rate, Trump has been tweeting about this case and its been brought to the FBI's attention, just like all that mountain of evidence in Omar's other escapades that got ignored. But what might make this different is the flashpoint it could serve as in the runup to an election and the security of mail-in voting. With evidence of ballot harvesters running around giving people cash for votes by the hundreds, its going to be pretty hard to pretend there's no voter fraud in America
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Sep 28 2020 12:48pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 28 2020 08:39pm)
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/09/new-project-veritas-video-voter-fraud-in-ilhan-omars-district/
https://twitter.com/realDSteinberg/status/1310638504129556480

The latest project veritas secret video operation records evidence of something investigative journalists have been digging into for years in minneapolis, a large operation pretty much right out in the open of democratic activists harvesting mail-in ballots from senior citizens and immigrants and filling them out, even paying for the ballots, at the large somali and/or elderly communities at cedar riverside and the horn towers. Their video shows one such ballot harvester claiming to have 300 ballots from the august primary, some paid for with cash and many blank- besides the obvious illegality of filling in their ballots, collecting more than 3 ballots to turn in is illegal under minnesota laws on ballot harvesting.

But don't let o'queef take the credit for / taint the perception of something that's been an open secret in Minnesota for years. Two unnamed elected representatives had brought information about the ballot harvesting to the FBI and investigators had already been briefed in a sit-down meeting (one of the two is clearly rep. Steve Drazkowski), and independent journalists had been digging into it and had only gotten off-the-record sources and hearsay- PV just got 'invited' and managed to catch someone on tape saying what we already heard them say anonymously.

The basic gist of it is that the Somali community gets away with this because all the various frauds are so absurdly rampant and unchecked and with zero accountability that they don't even bother to cover their tracks. I mean, its the same story with how Obama's DNA testing for family reunification visas used for chain migration showed 80-90%+ weren't biologically related, and when Ilhan's father Nur Said Elmi died from Covid-19 this year, the high profile Somali community members posting eulogies of him on social media just openly named him as colonel and named his family using the real identities and siblings Ilhan has denied publicly as she maintains the ridiculous immigration fraud denial. And last year, a group of Somali voters were busted at the polls chaining together as each other's "helper" to register non-citizens to vote and receive mail-in ballots, which only got discovered and charged because a poll worker recognized the same person playing both an invalid on one trip and an invalid's helper on another. Probably just the tip of that iceberg.

At any rate, Trump has been tweeting about this case and its been brought to the FBI's attention, just like all that mountain of evidence in Omar's other escapades that got ignored. But what might make this different is the flashpoint it could serve as in the runup to an election and the security of mail-in voting. With evidence of ballot harvesters running around giving people cash for votes by the hundreds, its going to be pretty hard to pretend there's no voter fraud in America


inb4 the usual suspects claiming it's fake news

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Sep 28 2020 12:49pm
It's absolutely legal and that story is so cringe. Everything the "source" claims basically just verifies that they were doing everything legally. Getting a witness signature, etc. This is another O'Keefe nothingburger.

You guys are so addicted to outrage though.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Sep 28 2020 12:49pm
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Sep 28 2020 12:52pm
Quote (Djunior @ 28 Sep 2020 14:48)
inb4 the usual suspects claiming it's fake news



post right after yours was right on schedule :lol:
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Sep 28 2020 12:53pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 28 2020 01:49pm)
It's absolutely legal and that story is so cringe. Everything the "source" claims basically just verifies that they were doing everything legally. Getting a witness signature, etc. This is another O'Keefe nothingburger.

You guys are so addicted to outrage though.


You're not allowed to pay cash for votes in any jurisdiction I've ever heard of.
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Sep 28 2020 12:55pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 28 2020 01:53pm)
You're not allowed to pay cash for votes in any jurisdiction I've ever heard of.


Are you allowed to pay for votes but not how to vote? I.e. encourage voting but not conditional on one party?
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Sep 28 2020 12:56pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 28 2020 01:55pm)
Are you allowed to pay for votes but not how to vote? I.e. encourage voting but not conditional on one party?


not sure what your hypothetical 'encourage' would mean in this context, but;

18 U.S. Code § 597.Expenditures to influence voting
Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and
Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
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Sep 28 2020 12:57pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 28 2020 11:53am)
You're not allowed to pay cash for votes in any jurisdiction I've ever heard of.


That hasn't been substantiated in the least. It is completely legal to pay canvassers hourly to register people to vote and to collect ballots, which is substantiated as actually occurring by Veritas. Their "expose" shines the light on people doing things completely legally. LOL.

Also, from Newsweek:

"O'Keefe's claims also come just two weeks after liberal groups in Wisconsin asked the state's attorney general to investigate Project Veritas. They say members of the group mislead them by using false identities and tried to get them to agree "to use illegal methods."

More LOL.

O'Keefe broke the story now because his people got busted trying to convince Omar's people to break the law and they turned the Veritas goons in to the AG. The right relies on smokescreen to cover its own bad behavior.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Sep 28 2020 12:57pm
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Sep 28 2020 01:03pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 28 2020 01:56pm)
not sure what your hypothetical 'encourage' would mean in this context, but;

18 U.S. Code § 597.Expenditures to influence voting
Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and
Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.


Yeah that answers it. You aren't allowed to say "come vote for anybody and I'll pay for $10"
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Sep 28 2020 01:06pm
Not even reading after all the O'Keefe stuff tbh, credibility is lost.
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