In a move that should be praised by everybody who values democracy, Nevada is likely to pass a measure that will result in every registered voter automatically receiving a mail in ballot.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/03/politics/nevada-mail-ballots-registered-voters/index.html

Let's be perfectly clear here. This is absolutely legal. No court in the land will be able to touch this. It is specifically enshrined in the constitution that states have the right to conduct their elections in the way they see fit.

Naturally, Trump is threatening to sue the state to prevent this from happening, and tweeted the following.



So let's discuss what I see as Trump's only real path to victory right now. Suppress the vote.

Currently there is no evidence that mail-in votes are susceptible to fraud. However, Trump has continually railed against it as a method of voting, saying it will be overly fraudulent.

https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/july-national-poll-biden-maintains-lead-in-presidential-race-majority-support-nationwide-mask-mandate-in-public-spaces

According to new polling data 76% of respondents who said they were going to vote by mail were going to vote for Biden, and 65% of people who said they would vote in-person said they would vote for Trump.

So it's clear that Trump has an incentive to stop mail-in votes.

Now add to the fact that he's been intentionally slowing down the mail system through the new Postmaster General he appointed in May, Louis DeJoy (a huge Trump campaign donor and owner of millions of dollars of stock in the post-office's competitors) and I see a path to Trump's victory in 2020. (We can talk about the intentional sabotaging of the post-office that's been happening for a decade now later. It's really frustrating when you learn they easily kick UPS and Fedex's ass until congress handicapped them, despite having to have more offices and deliver to every address)

Simply put if Covid convinces enough Democrats to stay home, if his efforts to sabotage the post-office and disenfranchise mail-in voting is significant, and Trump's rhetoric about the virus being a hoax and mail-in voting being fraudulent energize enough Republicans, he may turn out enough to win.


What are your thoughts PaRD?

you don't see anything wrong with a law that lets activists fill in other people's ballots and mail them in?

You forgot to mention that he's okay with Florida doing it because older people are Republican there. At the end of the day, there's no consistency besides "do what's best for Trump." Personally, I think we need to unmask every single voter in the country so that we can threaten the children/grandchildren of Trump voters.

In Missouri you need their address, phone number, and social security number.

So not really something that lets activists just randomly fill in ballots and send them in.

I looked for Nevada's ballots but apparently they're a state where it's illegal to post pictures of the ballots.



Yep. The disparity of turnouts and significance of absentee ballots is going to significantly skew the polls. For a few fleeting weeks I had some certainty about the future, and now it's gone.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 4 2020 10:45pm

if nobody can do mail in voting.. (which is bs) but if R are gonna cry about it open the polls for 3 months. let people get to the polls don't make people with job/transportation issues/fear of virus/ whatever stand in lines for hours.

Dont you need a sin number? Are you implying that left activists have databases full of eligible sin numbers and are ready to fill ballots. Is their no system to ensure no duplicate votes by ensuring no duplicate sin numbers in the US?

There is.

You would need to know multiple details about the person, and if you mismatch you will likely get a signature comparison, and when the signature doesn't match it will get thrown out.

Discussing it is actually kinda hard since elections are explicitly delegated to the states in the constitution, and so you technically have 50 different verification systems. That's good because it means compromising an election would actually require compromising multiple states election systems simultaneously, but that's bad because it means elections aren't standardized.

if you can wear a mask to stand in line for a state funeral or attend a peaceful protest or to go the grocery store in July and August, then you can wear a mask to vote in person in November when its much cooler outside. not like many people have the excuse of “i have to be in the office” anymore

request and fill out an absentee ballot well in advance if you are incapable of being there to vote in person. i’ve done it before for several elections at multiple govt levels, took less than 5 mins total each time. military gets the privilege of voting absentee/by mail
NY primary elections took weeks to be decided with trying to do a lot of it by mail

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/614446
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/nyregion/election-absentee-ballots-primary.html

But yeah states can do whatever they desire unless it wants to require voters to verify who they are. Nevada is blue now anyways. what are the odds that a gamblers paradise in the former wild west loves intrusive and regressive policies



well yeah that didnt help much now did it. ‘Russia’ went and “hacked the election” while Pres Obama was in office and in charge of our nation’s security including elections. The media and democrats said so

This post was edited by excellence on Aug 4 2020 11:19pm

The Nevada bill allows for 3rd parties to fill in peoples ballots for them and drop off their ballot. Effectively, activists can visit nursing homes and can simply collect all their resident's ballots "at their request", fill them out and drop them off.
This is the "ballot harvesting" aspect of the law that is so controversial.

Its not that they're picking names off a list and filling in ballots all at some central location. Its that they're traveling to the people's locations and filling out and delivering their ballots for them.
And there's no way to do a signature comparison when the ballot doesn't require the voter's signature in the first place.
It also completely borks the custody of ballots. Political operatives- not election workers or nursing home staff- can collect ballots from the elderly and then be entrusted to deliver them, and even fill them out 'at their request'. They'll have custody of those ballots and be the failure point if all the Trump voting ballots just happen to go missing, or blank votes get filled in, or they just fill in something different than what the person dictating it said.

Sounds like the concern about voter drives, where they "throw out the voter registrations of Republicans", something that's never materialized.