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Jul 20 2020 02:16pm
California moves to reinstate race based college admissions because there are too many chinks and sand niggers in school. I'm sure we can all agree that politically correct liberal racism is the best kind of racism and is sure to bring about a new era of prosperity.

What do our resident pardians make of this direction california is headed in?

https://edsource.org/2020/california-universities-prepare-for-possible-return-of-affirmative-action-in-admissions/634178
The amendment’s main goal is to revoke Proposition 209, which was approved by voters in 1996. The end of Prop 209 would mean, among other things, that race could once again be considered by California’s public universities in recruiting efforts and admissions decisions. The proposed amendment’s backers clearly hope that the number of Black and Latino university students will rise at the University of California and the California State University. But they say they do not seek any set percentages of ethnic minorities enrolling. (In fact, U.S. Supreme Court decisions before and after Proposition 209 ban such quotas but otherwise allow race to be a factor in college admissions.)

In a recent statement supporting the change, the UC Board of Regents noted that the proportion of “underrepresented” groups – mainly Latino and Black students — “has not kept pace with the diversity of students in California K-12 schools or with the overall California population.”

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Jul 20 2020 02:22pm
liberals are obsessed with cutting down trees by the branches.

"inner cities are crime ridden hellscapes where people aren't safe from police or gangs" = "if we just control police it will all be fine, citizens kill 10x more than cops but im sure it will work out"

"we dont have enough black doctors, lawyers, and professionals" = "let more into college"

fixing policing is a band aid that will only start to fix inner cities, and getting more blacks into college wont make up for deficiencies in home learning and a poor education in elementary/middle/high school. the tough answer is pack all your cash into early intervention and pre-k education then wait 18 years to see the results, but people want instant gratification.
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Jul 20 2020 02:27pm
Isn't there a part where you're being asked to vote to repeal the ban on institutional racism and you face even a quantum of self-awareness and ask "Are we the baddies"?
I mean, I get that a substantial percentage of the voting public are young antifa types but even in california you have to figure that the majority of voters are old enough to have voted on that very same proposition back in 1996 that banned racism in the first place. Its asking voters to forget what it meant to be egalitarian and learn how to be a racist SJW zealot. And the scary thing is, it will probable work.
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Jul 20 2020 02:30pm
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Isn't there a part where you're being asked to vote to repeal the ban on institutional racism and you face even a quantum of self-awareness and ask "Are we the baddies"?
I mean, I get that a substantial percentage of the voting public are young antifa types but even in california you have to figure that the majority of voters are old enough to have voted on that very same proposition back in 1996 that banned racism in the first place. Its asking voters to forget what it meant to be egalitarian and learn how to be a racist SJW zealot. And the scary thing is, it will probable work.


much like woke whiteys blame the state of inner cities entirely on bad whiteys they blame the excess of asians on whites too. its all corporate overlord's faults for importing skilled asians that went on to breed skilled asians. so punishing asians is actually righting a wrong since blacks were only imported to be farm equipment, and therefore ok.
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Jul 20 2020 02:32pm
Don't agree with it but at the same time if you're boasting all the qualifications and more to make you an eligible candidate there's many schools across the US that will welcome you with open arms and young people are very transient.
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Jul 20 2020 02:35pm
Seems like it is still unconstitutional.
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Jul 20 2020 02:35pm
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much like woke whiteys blame the state of inner cities entirely on bad whiteys they blame the excess of asians on whites too. its all corporate overlord's faults for importing skilled asians that went on to breed skilled asians. so punishing asians is actually righting a wrong since blacks were only imported to be farm equipment, and therefore ok.


It's an interesting history. There was an actual propaganda campaign after WW2 to undo the post-war asia hate since we were at war with Japan. The campaign basically tried to make it seem like all Asians were geniuses and incentivized highly skilled Asian immigration.

As for what we should do about it, hard to say. Merit is notoriously hard to measure and still dependent on what an individual considers meritorious, so any kind of "just judge people on merit and nothing else!" isn't a real solution to any problem.

How does this actually stand in the light of the previous supreme court rulings that quota based diversity standards are unconstitutional?

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 20 2020 02:35pm
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Jul 20 2020 02:52pm
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It's an interesting history. There was an actual propaganda campaign after WW2 to undo the post-war asia hate since we were at war with Japan. The campaign basically tried to make it seem like all Asians were geniuses and incentivized highly skilled Asian immigration.

As for what we should do about it, hard to say. Merit is notoriously hard to measure and still dependent on what an individual considers meritorious, so any kind of "just judge people on merit and nothing else!" isn't a real solution to any problem.

How does this actually stand in the light of the previous supreme court rulings that quota based diversity standards are unconstitutional?


Merit=white/money/influence/who do you know.
I don't know that incentivizing college admissions' is the answer either. Cannot force people to become anti racist.
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Jul 20 2020 02:54pm
I was listening to a 538 podcast while walking my dog and they stated that both white Democrats and black Democrats are NOT in favor of race based affirmative action in college admissions. IMO, it's already too late to help underprivileged people. Yes, you can help with tuition, but you're already skimming from the top of the inner cities. That's not going to help the vast majority of inner city children.

How about this: once COVID is over, implement a strategy where inner-city children are bussed to suburban areas and vice versa. Allow students to experience diversity when they are young. In addition, give each school district an equal amount of funding. That won't solve every issue because it all starts in the home, but it should help. This is a multi-generational fight that's going to take decades to solve.
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Jul 20 2020 02:56pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jul 20 2020 03:54pm)
I was listening to a 538 podcast while walking my dog and they stated that both white Democrats and black Democrats are NOT in favor of race based affirmative action in college admissions. IMO, it's already too late to help underprivileged people. Yes, you can help with tuition, but you're already skimming from the top of the inner cities. That's not going to help the vast majority of inner city children.

How about this: once COVID is over, implement a strategy where inner-city children are bussed to suburban areas and vice versa. Allow students to experience diversity when they are young. In addition, give each school district an equal amount of funding. That won't solve every issue because it all starts in the home, but it should help. This is a multi-generational fight that's going to take decades to solve.


That can't be true. I was just told in another thread that the main stream left position is exactly that!
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