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Sep 29 2019 12:01pm
So I was reading an article here about a discussion some university was having on transgederism, feminism and the patriarchy and it looks like they have people wearing badges indicating how open they are to having a discussion which looks terrible for the future of education.

Personally I'm of the opinion that anything under the sun is open to criticism and nothing is sacred. This strain of cancerous progressiveness that attempts to police intellectual discourse that may be perceived as offensive needs to die. I don't think universities and colleges should be a place where you can avoid being challenged on the things you believe and to create such an environment undermines the very idea of having educational institutions in the first place. But maybe i'm just old and out of touch? What do our resident pardians think of the system below?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/22/academics-criticise-traffic-light-safe-space-badges-transgender/
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Traffic light "safe space" badges at a transgender conference have been criticised by academics, who argue that "being challenged makes you smarter".

Delegates attending the one-day forum at Roehampton University, south west London, were invited to wear different coloured lanyards to ensure they did not feel emotionally overwhelmed by sharing ideas.

Those wearing red badges did not wish to engage with their fellow academics, while those in yellow did not want to be approached and would only communicate if they made the first move.

Green badges were worn by attendees open to conversations.


The conference, titled Thinking Beyond: Transversal Transfeminisms, was advertised as a response to "a series of attacks against the experiences and identities of trans people", including "rampant transphobia in UK feminist circles".

Subjects up for discussion included 'the patriarchy' - the notion that men have a systemic advantage over women in society - and whether "inclusive feminism been extended too far".

Academics could change the colour of their lanyard depending on how resilient they felt at different points of the conference.

The traffic light lanyard system has attracted derision from academics, with Oxford University associate professor of sociology Michael Biggs claiming it "encourages fragility".

He told The Sunday Times: "In an academic conference in a university — where freedom of speech is fundamental — it is really inappropriate. It suggests the normal discourse of intellectual life is somehow threatening to people’s safety.
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Sep 29 2019 12:06pm
parents already failed if a college age person only can handle being around their clones or only wants to hear how right they are or how wrong everyone else is

the world and life are gonna eat them up anyway so if they wanna go into it even less prepared for an ass kicking, go for it
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Sep 29 2019 12:10pm
I don't see why anybody would get upset over a system to indicate how talkative you feel that day.

Nobody is taking something off the table to be discussed, they're indicating their preference for conversation.




e/ this might come as a surprise to some people, but respecting boundaries is important to facilitating an open conversation. You aren't going to change somebody's mind by forcing an uncomfortable conversation on the unwilling. Usually you'll just get a backfire effect and root them even more firmly in their beliefs.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 29 2019 12:15pm
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Sep 29 2019 12:12pm
>Duffman316 thread
>First sentence of post: "So I was reading an article here about a discussion some university was having on transgederism..."

I am shocked.
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Sep 29 2019 12:26pm
I don't see the problem with letting enormous intellectually undeveloped snowflakes be snowflakes. Its really only an issue once they try to force it on other people
for example, it would be an issue if they warped the bounds of civil conduct to claim people were aggressors for daring to talk normally with someone wearing a snowflake badge
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Sep 29 2019 12:27pm
Should we follow suit and put in our sigs what offends us?
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Sep 29 2019 12:32pm
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Sep 29 2019 02:27pm)
Should we follow suit and put in our sigs what offends us?


I have had sigs disabled for 10 years due to offensive content 🤔
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Sep 29 2019 12:35pm
You can't learn without discussing opposing views, and you can't function in a competitive or modern society without being able to cope with those who have drastically different viewpoints than you.

So as a person who is focused on education, safe spaces are actually a step back in advancing society.
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Sep 29 2019 01:21pm
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I don't see why anybody would get upset over a system to indicate how talkative you feel that day.

That’s because you’re a snowflake. If someone approaches you & you don’t want to engage, be an adult & say so, or do what most people do & fake it. Colored badges ? C’mon
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Sep 29 2019 01:34pm
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