This poll will probably get closed by CNN or the DNC, but what does PaRD think about this?

Whether we want to admit it or not, this IS happening in the world today. Those of the Islamic faith are setting up bases of operation in every country on the planet.



So after all is said and done, who will come out on top?

Has there ever been a precedent in history for the collapse of civilizations under their own social altruism?
That's one issue I have with the narrative of the west falling to Islamic migration. Fundamentally, its rooted in this idea that migration can reach a point of population displacement and replacement, without acknowledging the social resistance. Societies are generally self correcting and reach tipping points where the backlash evens things out. If we had asked our forefathers about Irish or Italian migration they might say a lot of the same things, but eventually the systems reached equilibrium and a new normal.
I don't think misguided western progressivism is a stable downhill slide for societal collapse. Europe went much faster about it and saw the rapid rise of anti-immigration sentiment and Brexit.

So we'll have violent wackos who think the end is nigh and forces unstoppable and use this as justification to go out and slaughter 50 muslims in a mosque, but the fatalism is misguided, the lack of faith in society disturbing

Well in the history books I learned from, there are many examples.

But in the US, all that has to happen, really, is to import enough folks to control the vote.

Who will win? - The Chinese!

They are already going full steam ahead in their efforts to de-islamize the relatively tiny muslim minority in their country, and they sure as hell wont be allowing muslim immigration in significant numbers. So the West weakening itself with misguided immigration policies helps them gain an advantage.





It's not about the impossibility of turning things around once the backlash reaches a critical level - it's about the economic, social and moral costs this would incur. And those costs are rising with each passing day, particularly in Europe.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 18 2019 12:57pm

One "enemy" could be:
- Uncontrolled mass consumption society in the age of modern technology.
- Inequalitarian, completely irresponsible regarding irreversible climate & pollution issues, destroying smaller & weakier countries in the long run [and so on: accusing them of being a threat]
- Dominated by lobbies, private interested, false beliefs, and appearances. Ending up with a wolfpack of billionaires as "governement" which has the only goal to pump as much as possible money while spreading diversion.

Will they win ?



Cutting off the crap about muslims, it's true they are even worse than the one above.
Many people seems to ignore that religion can swap really fast, faster than birthrate tho.


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Islam Islaaaam! Islaaaaaaam! rofl, your guys are a pity.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jul 18 2019 01:04pm

I guess the answer is yes, mass migrations (e.g. Franks, Vandals, Slavs, Goths) have led to the collapse of the host civilization. Different situation, to be sure, but I'm not sure we've ever seen something comparable to immigration today.

More broadly, there's an inherent risk that the societal "correction" is violent or unstable. We've seen this play out, with the Weimar Republic, Czarist Russia, and Maoist China being notable examples.

I think we're fast approaching a political crisis in this country, and I'm not really sure how it will all play out.

Oh noes... the vote is calling for Islam.

People keep saying "islam" but they never ask how lam

Instead of fearmongering and focusing on the world ending, why not focus on the present and creating positive outcomes? Think positive, be positive, be active. Become a politician and be honest and straightforward about what you plans are. Don't just sit back and let the evil Islam take over. I don't think they'll take over the world. We won't let that happen. Look at how the Hong Kongers fought back in recent events. It's still ongoing. Sri Lanka is hard at work, too. The Islamics are self destructing. They will collapse.

i voted others imo, what or who will come "out on top" is not something clear and binary.
over-simplification and splitting is baaaaad