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Jul 18 2012 11:33am
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07/18/bulgaria-bus-explosion-kills-3-israeli-tourists/

Have to quote faux because they're the first to 'report' the Israeli side always of course.

Their false flag attacks seem sort of half assed, whats up with killing their own civilians when they know it will likely durdle? A smoke screen to try to desperately dissipate their internal tensions perhaps?
A good plausible explanation is that one of the Iranian dissidents that Mossad armed and trained to carry out its false flags went rogue and slipped their chains, the sort of thing you get when you play with fire

But I always find the Israeli reactions cute. Netanyahu announcing that its Irans fault and we must stand together and act strongly against them in response
Before any details are known whatsoever about the bombing, who carried it out, any reports, forensics, etc, with no evidence at all of Iranian connection.
But he can say that knowing they'll find that evidence within hours or days.



It should throw up a giant red flag when the PM can get up and announce whos guilty the moment a bomb goes off without having to even ask who did it;
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"All the signs lead to Iran. Only in the past few months we have seen Iranian attempts to attack Israelis in Thailand, India, Georgia, Kenya, Cyprus and other places," Netanyahu said in a statement.


Or to translate:

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"No signs lead to Iran because nothing is known about this bombing at all yet. Only in the past few months we have seen False Flag attempts to attack Israelis in every strategically important economic ally of Iran" Netanyahu said in a statement.


This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 18 2012 11:38am
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Jul 18 2012 11:43am
Its really sort of sickening that they're greenlighting these false flag ops purely for political purposes.
I could understand if they were staging assassinations of individuals and shipping them into retirement under a new name or something, sure
But they're just indiscriminately killing innocent Israelis just to achieve their own warbeat.

If there was a huge chance of success, I could even understand the twisted mindset that rationalizes it by saying the ends justify the means.
But the huge chance of failure? They already attempted these earlier in the year to no avail, it didn't drum up the support they wanted, and suspicions overweighed any cassus belli.
Instead, it reeks of trying to force Obama's hand during an election cycle and they seem to have no compunctures about sacrificing innocent lives in the cause.

So if this fails and we return to a standstill on Iran, as we likely will, they just pissed away 5 lives for nothing. Just going fish by blowing up their own civvies. Disgusting
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Jul 18 2012 11:44am
Another spokesman for the Israeli ministry would not confirm that it was an attack. "We don't know if it was a terror attack," Paul Hirschson said. "We do know it was an explosion."

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Jonathan Rosenzweig said a flight from Tel Aviv had landed at a quarter to 5 p.m. and that the blast took place about 40 minutes later.



But yeah they will find a reason for war soon enough
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Jul 18 2012 11:44am
Damn Iranians!
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Jul 18 2012 11:45am
How long was it between the bombing and Netanyahu's announcement saying that the signs pointed to Iran?
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Jul 18 2012 11:46am
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How long was it between the bombing and Netanyahu's announcement saying that the signs pointed to Iran?


4 days.
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Jul 18 2012 11:50am
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How long was it between the bombing and Netanyahu's announcement saying that the signs pointed to Iran?


They aren't even done shipping people to the hospital
Probably about an hour I think, but I'll see if I can dig up the exact times

But regardless, he obviously pinned it all on Iran and said its just one in a long chain of 'terror attacks' and listed all the other known false flags



In a sense, I think Israel isn't trying to hide the fact these are false flag ops, they're actually using that open-secret knowledge as a form of intimidation itself.
Like when India says it will keep buying Iranian oil, and Israel stages a false flag attack in India right after.
The point is to really put the vice grips on the Indian government on two sides- the public is easily deceived by the false flag op, while the govt knows full well who did it and that they know you know- showing they're willing to continue the campaign if you don't desist.
Its not an attempt to make any leaders actually think that Iran carries out terror attacks- everyone in power already knows Iran has no foreign operations anyway and can barely hold itself together internally with its secret police
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Jul 18 2012 11:51am
Gooms, you should probably quit trolling so much. Many_Names is going to have a nervous breakdown.
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Jul 18 2012 11:56am
Fill in this simple quiz:


Who has a foreign secret service with capabilities to pull off such an attack?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia

Who benefits socio-politically from such an attack?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia

Who pointed fingers before they could even plausibly know any details at all about the attack?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia

Who has a long history of false flag attacks to create support for foreign wars?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia




The Iranian spy agency couldn't buy a loaf of bread at walmart without an FBI agent knowing it and a Mossad operative breathing down their neck in the check-out line.
If you guys want an example of what an actual terror attack looks like to contrast this against, look at Anders Breivik's attacks
I was listening to that in real-time. The first few hours were total confusion, did a bomb go off? Was it a gas leak, a natural disaster, a building collapse? Was it al-qaeda, neo-nazis, the IRA, who?
Total confusion, details barely trickling in, and then a shift as scattered reports came out about shootings on an island and tons of conflicting reports, and it took days to build an accurate picture of what happened.
In this attack? The bus is still smoking and Netanyahu goes LOL WAS IRAN LOL

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 18 2012 12:01pm
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Jul 18 2012 12:00pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 18 2012 10:56am)
Fill in this simple quiz:


Who has a foreign secret service with capabilities to pull off such an attack?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia

Who benefits socio-politically from such an attack?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia

Who pointed fingers before they could even plausibly know any details at all about the attack?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia

Who has a long history of false flag attacks to create support for foreign wars?:
[] Israel
[] Iran
[] USA
[] Russia




The Iranian spy agency couldn't buy a loaf of bread at walmart without an FBI agent knowing it and a Mossad operative breathing down their neck in the check-out line.


can anyone by themselves kill kids on a bus or walk into a house and start shooting kids? To blame a nation for this crime is reaching at straws ..Did all blame America when 1 of our soldiers did this?
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