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Apr 25 2011 10:09pm


Why must our government host this corrupt, money hungry system?

After Woodrow Wilson signed into law the Federal Reserve System :

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
~ Woodrow Wilson

How can we appeal to have this removed? it takes 35% of our paychecks to host and it just ends up making our money worth less! It's a system -made- to profit them and we do not need it!
Last couple people who tried were assassinated, including JFK (in some people eyes, idk for myself. but in the weeks before he was pushing to oust it. Same with other people of power.)
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Surprised; was sure this would start with a Z.
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Apr 25 2011 10:31pm
Let's move to China. They don't have a Federal Reserve.
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Apr 25 2011 10:44pm
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Apr 25 2011 11:12pm
I don't see a problem with this.
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Apr 25 2011 11:38pm
Quote (thundercock @ Apr 26 2011 12:12am)
I don't see a problem with this.


Because you have enough money/power to be satisfied with your position?
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Quote (MewKitten @ Apr 26 2011 05:38am)
Because you have enough money/power to be satisfied with your position?



That's certainly part of it. Do you disagree with the concept of expanding the money supply?
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Apr 26 2011 12:33am
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That's certainly part of it.  Do you disagree with the concept of expanding the money supply?


I agree with the concept of full reserve fiat and a natural expansion of the money supply based on measurable factors such as population growth. This fractional reserve, derivatives, yadda yadda, is a really bad way for it to go down.
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Quote (thundercock @ Apr 26 2011 01:12am)
That's certainly part of it.  Do you disagree with the concept of expanding the money supply?


I believe that the monetary system itself is a primitive system.
We easily have enough resources to keep expanding our technology and make it so -nobody- suffers, -nobody- starves.
Our monetary system holds us back, so we cannot start this progress.
Many sources of energy are available.
Nuclear, hydrogen and such are highly inefficient and create byproducts, and also need invested energy.
solar energy has enough power in 1 hour at noon to meet the world's power consumption of a year. if we can catch 1% of this energy, we would never need oil again.
also there is wind..if wind is fully harvested in 3 us states, the us would be fully powered.
tidal power produces some power, as does wave power.
and then there's geothermal, using only water it can produce a lot of clean energy.
earth contains 13000 zj of power available, and 2000 zj is easily tappable with slightly improved technique.
Earth's power usage a year is .5 zj
earth's heat energy is constantly renewed so this power source is limitless.
why do we not convert to this system?
in return we can continue to advance technologically without being held back, and war would be essentially unnecessary.
the problem with with the monetary system comes from the fact that we need intelligent resource management, and personal interest of the wealthy distracts the money from where it is needed.
where are the downfalls of this system? not nearly as many as our current system, the obvious ones are removed.


This post was edited by MewKitten on Apr 26 2011 01:12am
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Quote (MewKitten @ Apr 26 2011 02:44am)
I believe that the monetary system itself is a primitive system.
We easily have enough resources to keep expanding our technology and make it so -nobody- suffers, -nobody- starves.
Our monetary system holds us back, so we cannot start this progress.
Many sources of energy are available.
Nuclear, hydrogen and such are highly inefficient and create byproducts, and also need invested energy.
solar energy has enough power in 1 hour at noon to meet the world's power consumption of a year. if we can catch 1% of this energy, we would never need oil again.
also there is wind..if wind is fully harvested in 3 us states, the us would be fully powered.
tidal power produces some power, as does wave power.
and then there's geothermal, using only water it can produce a lot of clean energy.
earth contains 13000 zj of power available, and 2000 zj is easily tappable with slightly improved technique.
Earth's power usage a year is .5 zj
earth's heat energy is constantly renewed so this power source is limitless.
why do we not convert to this system?
in return we can continue to advance technologically without being held back, and war would be essentially unnecessary.
the problem with with the monetary system comes from the fact that we need intelligent resource management, and personal interest of the wealthy distracts the money from where it is needed.
where are the downfalls of this system? not nearly as many as our current system, the obvious ones are removed.


This is all true, but none of them want to hear it. They'll start picking it apart with well-rehearsed regressive propaganda soon.
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