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Dec 14 2024 01:22pm
2-10 percent tariff on everything imported, make it simple. Use it as a way to simplify government relationships and as a bargaining chip for war to de-escalate, co-operate, be awake alive humans that don't want the world to explode.




Threaten mega companies with retaliation if they raise prices, because we all know they are making a ton of profit and even more after Covid and could lose some of their record profits for more sustainable fiscal government.


Also international standard tax rate for energy exports match the middle east (UAE, Saudi, you know the smart folks out there) so we can pay off our debts with that tax that is taking natural resources from the country and therefore should help us with our $ woes.
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Dec 14 2024 04:59pm
Tarriffs don't affect the exporter. Only the importer.
You really won't be using it for political bargaining

Here's what's happening and what's going to happen

What has happened:
1. Companies have raised their prices in anticipation of cost increase.
2. Companies have burned through reserve cash to purchase products at prices that are still low
3. Say goodbye to your christmas bonus

What will happen:
1. Companies will bludgeon Asia exporters into lowering their prices to offset costs or lose the volume
2. Companies will increase their margin
3. Consumer prices will not go down



2 things to keep in mind

Western companies love profit
Eastern companies like volume
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Dec 14 2024 05:04pm
Quote (Bruv @ Dec 14 2024 05:59pm)
Tarriffs don't affect the exporter. Only the importer.
You really won't be using it for political bargaining

Here's what's happening and what's going to happen

What has happened:
1. Companies have raised their prices in anticipation of cost increase.
2. Companies have burned through reserve cash to purchase products at prices that are still low
3. Say goodbye to your christmas bonus

What will happen:
1. Companies will bludgeon Asia exporters into lowering their prices to offset costs or lose the volume
2. Companies will increase their margin
3. Consumer prices will not go down



2 things to keep in mind

Western companies love profit
Eastern companies like volume


I'm saying he does less % than what he proposes, ultimately we all want to work together economically and tariffs causing people to lose business isn't good. The 2-10 % could be graded based on de-militarization efforts imo.
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Dec 14 2024 06:37pm
Yes, the reality show host criminal suddenly figured out a tool to solve all foreign conflict.

Why didn't he do it in the first term?

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 14 2024 06:38pm
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Quote (IceMage @ Dec 14 2024 07:37pm)
Yes, the reality show host criminal suddenly figured out a tool to solve all foreign conflict.

Why didn't he do it in the first term?


much less wars his first term IIRC
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Dec 14 2024 06:46pm
Quote (chudman123 @ Dec 14 2024 07:41pm)
much less wars his first term IIRC


Biden ended the war in Afghanistan.
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Biden ended the war in Afghanistan.


by giving them a ton of weapons, Trump already had it setup.

No1 was talking about getting nuked pre-biden in the last few decades
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Dec 14 2024 11:02pm
Quote (Bruv @ Dec 14 2024 04:59pm)
Tarriffs don't affect the exporter. Only the importer.
You really won't be using it for political bargaining

Here's what's happening and what's going to happen

What has happened:
1. Companies have raised their prices in anticipation of cost increase.
2. Companies have burned through reserve cash to purchase products at prices that are still low
3. Say goodbye to your christmas bonus

What will happen:
1. Companies will bludgeon Asia exporters into lowering their prices to offset costs or lose the volume
2. Companies will increase their margin
3. Consumer prices will not go down



2 things to keep in mind

Western companies love profit
Eastern companies like volume


They key to making the tariff play viable is simultaneously cheapening domestic production of the goods competing with imports and/or bolstering quality and maintainability depending on the commodity.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Dec 14 2024 11:02pm
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Dec 14 2024 11:17pm
Quote (Bruv @ Dec 14 2024 05:59pm)
Tarriffs don't affect the exporter. Only the importer.
You really won't be using it for political bargaining

Here's what's happening and what's going to happen

What has happened:
1. Companies have raised their prices in anticipation of cost increase.
2. Companies have burned through reserve cash to purchase products at prices that are still low
3. Say goodbye to your christmas bonus

What will happen:
1. Companies will bludgeon Asia exporters into lowering their prices to offset costs or lose the volume
2. Companies will increase their margin
3. Consumer prices will not go down



2 things to keep in mind

Western companies love profit
Eastern companies like volume


Tariffs artificially raise the price of a product. The equilibrium between supply and demand is disrupted, with the government extracting rent from everyone involved. Higher prices means consumers purchase less and pay more, fewer purchases puts pressure on the exporter's margins.

Countries don't hate opposing nation tariffs because it doesn't impact them, they hate them because it does. When the United States taxes imports the tax is paid both by the importer and the exporter, and passed up and down the supply chain.

You seem to be acknowledging this in your second point, but that's also wrong. For corporations to net 100% of the profit, there must be both inelastic supply and inelastic demand (on the part of the exporter and consumer respectively). The exporter must be willing to sell more at the same price, and consumers must be willing to pay more for the same supply. If that's the case there's nothing stopping corporations from raising prices right now. The question of tariffs is irrelevent.
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Dec 14 2024 11:35pm
Quote (Bruv @ 14 Dec 2024 17:59)
Tarriffs don't affect the exporter. Only the importer.
You really won't be using it for political bargaining

Here's what's happening and what's going to happen

What has happened:
1. Companies have raised their prices in anticipation of cost increase.
2. Companies have burned through reserve cash to purchase products at prices that are still low
3. Say goodbye to your christmas bonus

What will happen:
1. Companies will bludgeon Asia exporters into lowering their prices to offset costs or lose the volume
2. Companies will increase their margin
3. Consumer prices will not go down



2 things to keep in mind

Western companies love profit
Eastern companies like volume


pls tell me you don't do math or analytics for a living
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