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Sep 14 2023 12:10pm
So this is a thread about the flooding in Libya;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-africa-66805748
https://eos.org/thelandslideblog/the-failed-dams-in-wadi-derna-in-libya

At least 11,000 people were killed, the death toll predicted as high as 20,000, mostly in the city of Derna in Libya
Two dams burst from the torrential rains, the Al-Bilad dam and Abu Mansour dam, constructed of a core compacted clay earth encased in stone, made in the 1970s by Yugoslavian contractors. The first smaller dam was upstream of the larger dam, leading to a cascading collapse, and lower dam was located less than half a mile from the city border, meaning the entirety of the city was in the floodplain, on a flat surface, with nowhere for water to disperse before destroying the town. Then came the 6.7 inches of rain in a tropical storm with floodwaters as high as 10 feet, when even a half foot of water moving swiftly is enough to be life threatening and knock people down. Naturally Libya is a country without a functional government and means to maintain and rebuild infrastructure in the aftermath of the Arab Spring and US invasion, to the point we can't even know for sure how deficient the dams were prior to bursting because nobody was checking on them.

With a population of ~85,000, a significant percent of the entire population of the town was killed and approximately a quarter of all the buildings swept away, let alone those damaged.
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Sep 14 2023 12:15pm
*Freedom intensifies*
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Sep 14 2023 12:43pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Sep 2023 20:10)
So this is a thread about the flooding in Libya;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-africa-66805748
https://eos.org/thelandslideblog/the-failed-dams-in-wadi-derna-in-libya

At least 11,000 people were killed, the death toll predicted as high as 20,000, mostly in the city of Derna in Libya
Two dams burst from the torrential rains, the Al-Bilad dam and Abu Mansour dam, constructed of a core compacted clay earth encased in stone, made in the 1970s by Yugoslavian contractors. The first smaller dam was upstream of the larger dam, leading to a cascading collapse, and lower dam was located less than half a mile from the city border, meaning the entirety of the city was in the floodplain, on a flat surface, with nowhere for water to disperse before destroying the town. Then came the 6.7 inches of rain in a tropical storm with floodwaters as high as 10 feet, when even a half foot of water moving swiftly is enough to be life threatening and knock people down. Naturally Libya is a country without a functional government and means to maintain and rebuild infrastructure in the aftermath of the Arab Spring and US invasion, to the point we can't even know for sure how deficient the dams were prior to bursting because nobody was checking on them.

With a population of ~85,000, a significant percent of the entire population of the town was killed and approximately a quarter of all the buildings swept away, let alone those damaged.


Qadaffi died more than a decade ago. Lybia is free and prosperous now, free of horrors of dictatorship, clean water and electricity.



Nobody gives a shit about them now. Their foreign reserves got stolen, their central bank is still sanctioned and warlords have opened open air slave markets where tourists from Europe came for summer vacations.

https://time.com/longform/african-slave-trade/

Lybia is forever lost.

This post was edited by Malopox on Sep 14 2023 12:46pm
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Sep 14 2023 12:46pm
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Qadaffi died more than a decade ago. Lybia is free and prosperous now, free of horrors of dictatorship, clean water and electricity.

https://i.imgur.com/PrLrhG4.jpg

Nobody gives a shit about them now. Their foreign reserves got stolen, their central bank is still sanctioned and warlords have opened open air slave markets where tourists from Europe came for summer vacations. Lybia is forever lost.


People like and must be proud, the terrible dictator was killed after all
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Sep 14 2023 12:53pm
Communist infrastructure fails
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Sep 14 2023 01:01pm
Imagine the HACKS celebtrating Gadaffi regime while accusing US/EU to cast flood spells...
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Sep 14 2023 01:07pm
#ArabSpring

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Sep 14 2023 01:10pm
Quote (Malopox @ Sep 14 2023 07:43pm)
Qadaffi died more than a decade ago. Lybia is free and prosperous now, free of horrors of dictatorship, clean water and electricity.

https://i.imgur.com/PrLrhG4.jpg

Nobody gives a shit about them now. Their foreign reserves got stolen, their central bank is still sanctioned and warlords have opened open air slave markets where tourists from Europe came for summer vacations.

https://time.com/longform/african-slave-trade/

Lybia is forever lost.


A per capita graph is extremely skewed when you consider Libyas population,
"From 1960 to 2022 the population of Libya increased from 1.45 million to 6.81 million people."

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Sep 14 2023 01:14pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Sep 14 2023 02:01pm)
Imagine the HACKS celebtrating Gadaffi regime while accusing US/EU to cast flood spells...


This just in: a hostile foreign invasion toppling a government results in the loss of the benefits of government service and protection to the people of that country, including the maintenance and replacement of critical infrastructure.
Not to mention zoning and regulation to keep people from building in floodplains in the first place.

If Alice operates the anti-bear-attack device that keeps wild bears from mauling Bob to death, and Charlie comes along and shoots Alice to death, then who's fault is it when a bear comes along and mauls Bob to death? The bear's?
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Sep 14 2023 01:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 14 Sep 2023 21:14)
This just in: a hostile foreign invasion toppling a government results in the loss of the benefits of government service and protection to the people of that country, including the maintenance and replacement of critical infrastructure.
Not to mention zoning and regulation to keep people from building in floodplains in the first place.

If Alice operates the anti-bear-attack device that keeps wild bears from mauling Bob to death, and Charlie comes along and shoots Alice to death, then who's fault is it when a bear comes along and mauls Bob to death? The bear's?


Clearly Alice’s fault because she was a violent dictator who placed anti-bear-attack devices angering bears who are actually peaceful hippies. Also she’s dead so she can’t defend herself.
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