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May 31 2023 12:53am
Revelation 16:12
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

Revelation 16:19
And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
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May 31 2023 01:08am
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But aren't the "kings of the east" going to war or have been already with the promised land? (Iraq and Saudi Arabia) against Israel? Do you think that Babylon could be from one of those countries?
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May 31 2023 01:09am
Actually a quick google search tells me Babylon IS in Iraq...
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May 31 2023 01:19am
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Actually a quick google search tells me Babylon IS in Iraq...


the original babylon tower of babel

babylon are any great cities of earth that are centers of power?
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Quote (TiStuff @ May 31 2023 12:19am)
the original babylon tower of babel

babylon are any great cities of earth that are centers of power?


Hmm...but I think in revelation it's being specific, I know the power of the old Babylon has gone away, but the location being east of euphrates for which "the great city" fell seems likely to possibly be a capital of great importance to one of these countries in our present/future day. Possibly a great religious city of importance that has a history with dealing with Christians or Jews violently either in SA or Iraq. Maybe one of there capitals? Mecca? Will the war be between Islam and Christians and Jews when the antichrist comes to try and bring in a new world order to unite all countries into one government? All speculation....

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Hmm...but I think in revelation it's being specific, I know the power of the old Babylon has gone away, but the location being east of euphrates for which "the great city" fell seems likely to possibly be a capital of great importance to one of these countries in our present/future day. Possibly a great religious city of importance that has a history with dealing with Christians or Jews violently either in SA or Iraq. Maybe one of there capitals? Mecca? Will the war be between Islam and Christians and Jews when the antichrist comes to try and bring in a new world order to unite all countries into one government? All speculation....


what does "vicar of Christ" mean?
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: an ecclesiastical agent: such as
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: a Church of England incumbent receiving a stipend but not the tithes of a parish
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: a member of the Episcopal clergy or laity who has charge of a mission or chapel
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: a member of the clergy who exercises a broad pastoral responsibility as the representative of a prelate
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: one serving as a substitute or agent
specifically : an administrative deputy
vicarship
ˈvi-kər-ˌship
noun
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If your saying that vicar of christ means substitute for christ and are correlating that to blasphemy and providing insight such as past murders of Christians, does it still fit the geographical location of revelation concerning the kings of the east? I don't know if the Vatican city fits Babylon.
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May 31 2023 05:35am
Ancient town like many. ... Befor the fall .
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