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Jul 23 2013 09:50pm
Requesting. :)

Stock: http://i.imgur.com/y1FeeEI.jpg

Style: I can roll with just about anything. Pop-outs and animation are the ones I don't like.
Colors: Your choice. Not exactly picky on these.

I'd prefer to not have the blood on her if possible.
If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to ask. Thanks!
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Jul 24 2013 02:19am
Question: If a request is accepted, can we know how many designers will be creating one before sending the Fg?

I'm asking because an issue of fairness arises if we don't know that information. We are guaranteed at least two, but if one person pays 1500 and gets 8 to choose from (like some in this thread), but another person only gets two to choose from, that's not exactly fair unless we know that information up front.

Also, can we expect minor requested changes to the winning signature?

Thanks

This post was edited by Aurorae on Jul 24 2013 02:23am
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Quote (Aurorae @ Jul 24 2013 04:19am)
Question: If a request is accepted, can we know how many designers will be creating one before sending the Fg?

I'm asking because an issue of fairness arises if we don't know that information. We are guaranteed at least two, but if one person pays 1500 and gets 8 to choose from (like some in this thread), but another person only gets two to choose from, that's not exactly fair unless we know that information up front.

Also, can we expect minor requested changes to the winning signature?

Thanks


no, the number of entries isnt even known by me until it is posted because anyone can make a tag after it has been accepted.
e/ as for fairness, in the original post it says a minimum of 2 signing to it for us to accept so you know from the start what you are getting into

and it depends on the designer of the winning signature if changes can be requested

This post was edited by TheReborn_Magi on Jul 24 2013 02:28am
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Quote (TheReborn_Magi @ Jul 24 2013 03:24am)
no, the number of entries isnt even known by me until it is posted because anyone can make a tag after it has been accepted.
e/ as for fairness, in the original post it says a minimum of 2 signing to it for us to accept so you know from the start what you are getting into

and it depends on the designer of the winning signature if changes can be requested

You guys may want to re-think how this service is done... the idea is good, but the implementation for us isn't so good.

You're essentially saying that although Illyria paid 1500 fg and got to choose between 8 signatures (or for others, 12+ signatures to choose from), we could be paying 1500 fg for only 2 signatures to choose from, and there's no way for us to know if this will happen. In addition, we may not even be able to have a simple change in font text if the signature creator doesn't feel like it. And last, even if we want a refund, you still keep 1000 fg so not much is lost.
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Quote (Aurorae @ Jul 24 2013 03:19am)
Question: If a request is accepted, can we know how many designers will be creating one before sending the Fg?

I'm asking because an issue of fairness arises if we don't know that information. We are guaranteed at least two, but if one person pays 1500 and gets 8 to choose from (like some in this thread), but another person only gets two to choose from, that's not exactly fair unless we know that information up front.

Also, can we expect minor requested changes to the winning signature?

Thanks


It's also better odds for you guys compared to traditional services where it's only one signature done. Also less of a chance of that signature being complete crap since most of us have experience.
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Jul 24 2013 03:07am
Quote (Ayudame @ Jul 24 2013 03:49am)
It's also better odds for you guys compared to traditional services where it's only one signature done. Also less of a chance of that signature being complete crap since most of us have experience.

I can't speak on the experience factor, but the better odds point is debatable. From what I've seen, other services offer a much higher refund. Also, people can still receive signatures by requesting them upfront and paying afterwards.

So my choice is:

Pay 1500 fg for the choice of two guaranteed signatures that I may dislike, made by people I don't know, who may also refuse to do minor changes like font changes, and get 500 fg refund if needed.
or
Offer 1500 fg to anyone willing to make signature, can choose the best one I like, then send Fg. Zero risk.

I guess for someone with not a lot of fg, the risk doesn't seem to be worth it for #1. You guys could argue I may not receive as talented results, but for me it's not that big of an issue since I'm patient + could still offer more fg with zero risk to attract more talent.

Good luck guys. Not trying to hate on your service or anything, just giving my thoughts.
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Quote (Aurorae @ Jul 24 2013 09:07am)
I can't speak on the experience factor, but the better odds point is debatable. From what I've seen, other services offer a much higher refund. Also, people can still receive signatures by requesting them upfront and paying afterwards.

So my choice is:

Pay 1500 fg for the choice of two guaranteed signatures that I may dislike, made by people I don't know, who may also refuse to do minor changes like font changes, and get 500 fg refund if needed.
or
Offer 1500 fg to anyone willing to make signature, can choose the best one I like, then send Fg. Zero risk.

I guess for someone with not a lot of fg, the risk doesn't seem to be worth it for #1. You guys could argue I may not receive as talented results, but for me it's not that big of an issue since I'm patient + could still offer more fg with zero risk to attract more talent.

Good luck guys. Not trying to hate on your service or anything, just giving my thoughts.

This shop is by far your best shot at a good sig, even if there were only 2 guys attempting you get a guarantee that they are very talented and experienced people unlike 98% of the people on this subforum that are just guys with paint.net trying to earn an easy buck by over charging people like you for shitty sigs that took them 2 minutes to make.

This post was edited by Golden_star on Jul 24 2013 03:16am
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Quote (Aurorae @ Jul 24 2013 07:07pm)
I can't speak on the experience factor, but the better odds point is debatable. From what I've seen, other services offer a much higher refund. Also, people can still receive signatures by requesting them upfront and paying afterwards.

So my choice is:

Pay 1500 fg for the choice of two guaranteed signatures that I may dislike, made by people I don't know, who may also refuse to do minor changes like font changes, and get 500 fg refund if needed.
or
Offer 1500 fg to anyone willing to make signature, can choose the best one I like, then send Fg. Zero risk.

I guess for someone with not a lot of fg, the risk doesn't seem to be worth it for #1. You guys could argue I may not receive as talented results, but for me it's not that big of an issue since I'm patient + could still offer more fg with zero risk to attract more talent.

Good luck guys. Not trying to hate on your service or anything, just giving my thoughts.


as you can see, there is a long line of requests. whether or not you want to request something doesn't dramatically affect them.
they don't take every request once it's posted, so you are highly unlikely to get only 2 attempts. the completed requests have had 6-8 attempts.
still, 2 attempts from 2 different people gives different perspectives, instead of the 1 perspective provided in a service thread.
in a service thread, you also have to send the fg up front. for any decent service, you'll expect 600-1500 or more depending on your request.
the refund rate for a service thread is generally 2/3 of the price, meaning 1/3 goes to the person. since there will be at least 2 or more, 2/3 seems fair, and isn't really much gain for them.
sure you can make your own thread, but you'll notice that most "attempts" are slapped together in 5-15 mins.
they split the fg between all participants in the competition for each request, the winner doesn't take all.
if there's something MINOR that you want changed, i'm sure they wouldn't mind. this was mentioned in the thread in the graphics design section before the service was official.
if you want something in a whole different direction, you're pretty much asking for a new sig, and that obviously means you didn't like the attempt.
the best way to get what you want out of them is to be specific in your request. if you tell them exactly what you want, you'll get better results.
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Jul 24 2013 05:19am
best service i've seen so far.
good job guys / girls :)
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Jul 24 2013 06:04am
Alright the spam can stop now.
@Aurorae - We're not scumbags just trying to make fg we try are very best to make sure we throw out tons of options so I'm pretty sure you'll never see only two choices, but if it happens.. well you were warned.
If you don't like how we run it and are too worried/nervous then don't buy one? Simple. I don't see the point of arguing, just leave and don't purchase anything. Problem solved.


Quote (Alone @ Jul 24 2013 07:19am)
best service i've seen so far.
good job guys / girls :)


Thank you :)
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