please hurley, go away.
Please never talk to me again.
Please ignore me.
Please go harass someone else.
JUST DONT TALK TO ME AGAIN PLEASE.

Look, I’m not willing to harass. But this goes both way.
Also, I’ll give you what you got, your animation skills are good, they really are. If you work on the rest, you can get to 037, mrpond and others level. Just look at he started with only animations skills and now he’s doing good work overall.

So keep up the progress and let’s keep it civilized.

Using a asset wich have watermark and then deleting it without a having file to edit or when you buy a asset you get psd, ai...etc file is still ripped if you want use it you need to leave watermark on because you because you are infringing copyright and you can type in google and they will say you the same thing that's why is watermark for


"Watermarking images can also protect the copyright - ensuring others don’t use the image without the owner’s permission" - (Source:Adobe)


Saying simple you didn't buy it you don't have permission
If you want to use it you need to leave watermark on.
And posting it on www wich is public it's commercial use.

You need to have rights to delete watermark from asset
Rights can be owned by buying asset etc or if asset have free license there is a meaning if it's only for personal use or both.


One more time - You can use asset with watermark on (you cant change nothing on it if you do you cannot use this asset only when you buy rights to this work then you can take out watermark and use it whenever you want.

okay bros.

Here is some legal 101.

Many people confuse legality with morality.
Just because something is morally wrong or goes against our common sense, it doesnt mean its illegal.

And even if something is illegal, if no damage is done, then there cannot be a lawsuit.
So is it then really illegal if there is zero consequence?

I. Watermarks

Now, lets talk about watermarks.
It seems that taking a watermarked image and using it even for personal use is illegal.
So I was wrong.
However, for images with free personal use licenses which accounts for 99.9% of the images on the internet, they are perfectly fine.

Going back to the topic, even though using watermarked images is illegal, since you cannot quantify the actual damage (if there is any), you cannot be charged of anything.
So while it is illegal, you are safe from any legal actions in most cases.
So once again, if there are zero legal implications, is it really illegal?

@Homek no... posting things on JSP by a user does not qualify as a commercial use.
For something to be related to commercial use, it needs to be directly related to the generation of revenue of that business entity.
JSP sig does not apply.
The sig making falls under recreation and hobby.

II. alteration of the image
If the images are heavily altered (the law is very loose and open to interpretation on this)
then the image is considered a derivative work.
While you may face a difficult time selling this commercially due to copyright violation, that image is still somewhat considered yours.
For example, if you take diverse images from the internet and stitch them up, that specific work is yours while the character in it is not.

So to sum up. Yes, using watermarked images are illegal.
However, the possibility of any consequences are next to zero.



*caveat: You steal an unreleased IP and post it here.

This post was edited by Ozymandias31153 on Jun 11 2024 08:06am

Still unsure why you talk about laws and legal issues.

We are only talking about ripping another artist’s working that clearly is willingly protected by a watermark.
You’ve been proven it’s illegal, already.
And furthermore is it moral? No it isn’t.
So what’s your point? Because of the lack of consequences one should do as he wants ?

Would you like people to rip off your work to make there own without your consent?

I dont think any jsp sig makers (except 1 or 2) claim any of their work to be original bro.
All the jsp sigs are non-commercial.
Its for fun.

On that note, your sig is unoriginal and it should be taken down.
In fact everyone's sig should be taken down.

We are just here to some fun fast artwork.

I will just stop talking now. I think its best that we never talk to each other and leave each other alone.

This post was edited by Ozymandias31153 on Jun 11 2024 10:06am

You don’t understand, the situation is different. Most of the images people will use are not with a watermark, that is the difference.

Beside that I agree

wow guys I just posted a photo that I found and that I like I didn't know about the watermark homek explained to me and I completely understand so I won't use this image but now my topic has become a chat...

now the debate is closed I will create a topic in order to find my new signature and avatar

here is closed

This isn't for personal use regardless if you are about to take the image, rip it, and sell it for a profit of digital currency to a customer. I wouldn't recommend using a watermarked image from deviant art as it is seen as intellectual property. I'm sure the consequences of using an image for a signature on JSP are nearly null however still not good practice. Also, the talk about morality is ironic in regards to our recent conversations about AI artwork.

My honest opinion just looking out for everyones best interests.