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Oct 28 2009 01:44am
Ok, so I already know there's a ton of issues and limitations to macro in Aion as of right now, idk why the fuck it is as it is but there is...they are limiting the wrong people but w/e...I guess they think it'll basically be like botting, even though there's no if/then commands.

Anyways I have seen plenty of problems with the macro system...yes I know Aion is a brand new release in NA, but still some issues are just terrible.

For example, every time I tried using the "/Automatic Selection" command that I got right off the "Example" it failed me and it just ends up saying "/Automatic Selection" in chat and not doing anything followed by end process of the macro.

Why the fuck do they have examples in the macro window using this command if it doesn't do what it's suppose to...which is basically functioning similar to; tab select. Instead through reading the "help" info I found out that the fucking shit needs editing and removing the space between "Automatic" and "Selection" for the command to work properly...I mean...really??? WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE SHITTING EXAMPLES THAT DON'T EVEN WORK AND ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT SAYS IN HELP?

Here's a more extensive list of some of the problems that I have seen some people mention in another forum (I am not posting a link to it because jsp mods are asshats and I don't need a warn for an asinine reason).


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# Macro Length: There is an incredibly small space available for macros.  As soon as you name a skill or maybe 2, you've run out of space.  But, at least one of the example Macros are huge! Take a look at the "Use Variable" macro - it shows how to use Blessing of Life 1 on each party member.  Double-click it to copy to your actual macro list and then try to edit it.  The last three lines of the macro get cut off, and until an additional number of lines are manually removed you can't add or change any text. Even the example macro is too long!  A suggestion to NCSoft to make this more managable would be to shorten [%VariableX] to be [%VX] instead

# System Variables that don't work - Also given in an example is targeting someone, annoucing the target and then attacking it; well, the [%target] variable indicated just doesn't work.  Also in an example, the /Select [% previous target] command doesn't work.  I'm not surprised considering the spaces but removing those doesn't fix ti either.  Same goes for [%target of target], also in an example macro.  In the Help section in game for Macros, additional variables are listed (inconsistently) that also don't work: [%yourself] and [%pet], etc.

# Variable Consistency - Are they case sensitive? It's hard to tell, but at least in the example macros could you please consistently capitalize/space/punctuate the variables, or at least mention it in the Help tab?

# User Variables - Do they work at all?  I can assign them, but that seems to be about it. The help tab instructions say to use [#variable0~9] but the # is inconsistent compared to everything that uses a % instead and the command doesn't work anyway.  Just for clarification, the example shows the pound sign, it's not meant to be a stand in for a number.
# Skill Names in Macros: It's not Blessing of Health 1 - it's Blessing of Health capital i  - really?  Roman numerals? Please either make numbers work in addition to roman numerals, or just use actual numbers.  The example macro even uses the number 1.  (Maybe this is a class specific issue?)

# /Automatic Selection command - It's intended to target and attack an enemy, but half the time I use it I end up targeting a friendly player and then automatically following them.  Not only does it not do what's intended, it can cause you or your group to be screwed over.

# According to the Macro Help tab, you can enter Macro commands directly into the chat window or activate them on the quick bar.  I can't get this to work from the chat window, so either the Help needs better explaining, or it just doesn't work.  Also, is it "/macro Example" or is it "/Example" ?

# There are 12 avaiable Macro slots - can we at least get 12 icons?

# The /QuickBar command - According to Help, you can enter either the QuickBar Type or the Quickbar Number, but the only working examples use numbers (ie /Quickbar 1 1 1). How would it be using the Type instead of the number?  I've tried things like /Quickbar Basic 1 but that didn't even work.  And why is there 3 sets of numbers?  The first number is the bar, the third number is the position on the bar, but what's the middle one?  It seems to have to always be set at 1.

# Target's Target - The Help tab also says you can use /Select Target's Target which also doesn't work and seems inconsistent with other /commands

# Power Shards - /power shard activate doesn't work, I haven't even tested deactivate.

# Spelling - In the help tab there's a reference to [%yargetoftarget]. Not that it matters since it wouldn't be working even if spelled correctly.


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Ok my BIG problem is the 255 character cap. What the hell!? I understand you have to prevent people from doing excessive scripts but as i just said.....WHAT THE HELL.

/Skill Blessing of Health I
/Delay 1.1
/Skill Blessing of Rock I

/Delay 1.1
/Select [%Group1]



86 Characters by my count(includes / and spaces). That buffs myself 2x, and switches targets to the next person. 34% marco space used ALREADY and that was to buff myself and target the first group member(also not including a target myself line, so i have to make sure to be neutral or on myself). So i cant even put 2 buff spells on 3 people in one effing macro. Id have to make 3 macros to get the whole group with these 2 spells only, and ive got auras and other spells to activate as well.


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Another issue is that when abilities are called the same thing (like Blessing of Rock I and... Blessing of Rock I the stigma version), they cannot be differentiated between in a macro, so you end up casting the wrong spell. In my case, I cast the level 3 buff, rather than the level 45 one.


If you guys have any other problems you may have noticed about the macro system that you may like to add I'd love to hear about them...and feel free to share any working macros you have if you want.

Here's one I tend to use often since I am too fucking lazy to click a billion times, it's for making gathering easier:

/select Titanium
/attack
/delay 8
/select Titanium
/attack
/delay 8
/select Titanium
/attack
/delay 8
/select Titanium
/attack
/delay 8
/select Titanium
/attack
/delay 8
/select Titanium
/attack

Just replace the "Titanium" for what you are gathering in an area with high abundance of the item and the delay time based on how long in average it usually takes you to gather the item once.
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Oct 29 2009 02:54pm
that quote in pink can be worked around easily

instead of writing /skill and then the skill name

u can put that skill on ur actionbar and tell the macro to go click on it (quickbar 1 1 1) for example
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Oct 29 2009 04:57pm
Quote (WoneD @ Oct 29 2009 03:54pm)
that quote in pink can be worked around easily

instead of writing /skill and then the skill name

u can put that skill on ur actionbar and tell the macro to go click on it (quickbar 1 1 1) for example


I agree, but it's still an issue regarding commands. Why should it be a problem if the command is there so it could be used. I personally use "/quickbar # # #" for my macros though.
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