"First graphics job was flash4 (macromedia) developer for telenisus corporation in illinois"

I was required to know a hell of lot more than flash. html, flash, extensive knowledge of dreamweaver3, freehand and fireworks (also macromedia of that era), photoshop, and needs assessment. Yes I had to do things like logos for the partners page. Which meant skills in dealing with the clients special wishes involving their trademarks. A hell of a lot more than just flash. I wasn't going into such detail above because I wasn't posting to inflate my ego. I was simply giving my take on the question in the topic.

What do you contribute? Insults? You know most the psychology community would agree that insults almost always come from someone feeling inferior or threatened. I never threatened you. Sorry feeling shitty enough to rip on people. Bet you're a real charmer in the business world.

This post was edited by thefriarmichael on Mar 29 2015 01:03pm

Hope you all have a great day!

BTW try this recess name calling at any pro graphics forum, like the NVIDA dev, or GDF and you won't be active long. They actually mod this sort of thing so people can depend on finding professional, on topic posts. Of course I don't expect that here. This place is almost all kids still in highschool and 20s living at home. Notorious for talking big with nothing to back it up.

This post was edited by thefriarmichael on Mar 29 2015 04:55pm

wow, thats the coolest sprite tag i've seen in a loooong time

woah you gotta move to a different area.

Im making 20k from a 3 day a week internship at a magazine for half a year before I go to korea on a study abroad scholarship

is 12k from freelancing? if so you gotta make better ways to make money or charge alot more

if its not you need a new job lol



the learning curve is not that hard but i cant really say anything because I have no interest in 3d modelling or illustration

This post was edited by Sena on Mar 29 2015 07:18pm

I've made much more being employed, yes, but I like working for myself.

The learning curve to 3d is quite hard depending on how many hats you want to wear.
modeling, texturing, normal and bump maps, modifiers, python (custom scripts for Blender), basic animation, advanced animation like walk cycles and pose libraries, advanced sequence editing that includes many animations blending and happening at once, like combining your walk cycle to a wave of the hand using a non-linear animation tool, compositing, video and scene sequence editing, music theory and composition (unless you can afford to buy/license music for your videos), rotoscoping, motion tracking, and this is barely hitting the bigger names of topics. The true list of subjects to learn is 3 times this long at least.

Grats on the internship!

This post was edited by thefriarmichael on Mar 29 2015 07:36pm

Flame? Ripping? What I said wasn't subjective.. Will you please requote me and bold the parts where I flamed you? I'll apologize if you show me where I wronged you. My intention was never to flame, but rather to give you insight into current practices/programs. Adobe CC is only $50/mo for example. I graduated in 08 and based on school and my peers, no one uses flash anymore. A majority of devs are using php, javascript, jquery, and mysql, etc.

Also, in the US the 2014-2015 poverty line is $11,670. You would rather voluntarily live in poverty than make 3x that, plus benefits, because why? Even the national average minimum wage in the US is $14,500.


What insults? What adjectives/opinion were used? I merely relayed information. I don't understand why you took offense.

Also, my contribution to the thread was stated earlier.

This post was edited by ericswanson_19 on Mar 30 2015 12:36am

I guess you are right. I was mainly defensive from a couple other comments. But not much. I expect to get flamed in this subforum. Sorry I mistook you for someone else.

And I choose to make less because sometimes I want to not work at all. Don't have to explain that to anyone. Sometimes I want to start a totally new project when I haven't finished my last one. Won't have to explain that to anyone either. Like being my own boss and it's worth every bit of the pay cut