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Mar 3 2012 10:41am
Quote (Vengance @ Mar 3 2012 05:39pm)
Too bad you're not in this :P


Even more reason to give me dem. For bs and not including me :'(
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Mar 3 2012 03:39pm
Quote (Sane @ Mar 3 2012 08:22am)
It could've been both, a success as tournament and a success for the students in improving.
Yet nero decided to screw it up.


WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Mar 3 2012 08:11pm
Quote (Sane @ Mar 3 2012 10:22am)
It could've been both, a success as tournament and a success for the students in improving.
Yet nero decided to screw it up.


does winning a tournament really matter that much =/
you have no use for fg, I don't see why it matters.
This was about teaching others
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Mar 3 2012 08:18pm
I would love to join..

You can PM me for some of my previous work.
I'm using photoshop CS5.
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Mar 4 2012 02:45am
I think the tournament was motivation for (some) mentors to teach and students to learn and now you took that motivation away. I could really care less about the fg and shit, but i think it was really bm to change the rules. Some people are really competitive and i think they would have liked to have this tournament. (including me).
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Mar 4 2012 02:49am
Quote (HydraManteli @ Mar 4 2012 02:45am)
I think the tournament was motivation for (some) mentors to teach and students to learn and now you took that motivation away. I could really care less about the fg and shit, but i think it was really bm to change the rules. Some people are really competitive and i think they would have liked to have this tournament. (including me).


Neat tag.
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Mar 4 2012 03:42am
Quote (DB_odin @ Mar 3 2012 10:11pm)
does winning a tournament really matter that much =/
you have no use for fg, I don't see why it matters.
This was about teaching others


i mean, im with sane in this in that if you want to run a tournament, run a tournament

and,

if you want to give odin fg for being a nice guy give him fg

but,

don't (attempt to) switch things halfway through and imply no one else is trying as hard.

because all he succeeded in doing was piss off everyone pretty much




pre-emptive edit/ if it wasnt about fg at all, then why would you need to decide who gets the fg at all instead of just leaving it as is (something just to have at the end)

made zero sense
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Mar 4 2012 03:59am
Quote (TheReborn_Magi @ 4 Mar 2012 10:42)
i mean, im with sane in this in that if you want to run a tournament, run a tournament

and,

if you want to give odin fg for being a nice guy give him fg

but,

don't (attempt to) switch things halfway through and imply no one else is trying as hard.

because all he succeeded in doing was piss off everyone pretty much




pre-emptive edit/ if it wasnt about fg at all, then why would you need to decide who gets the fg at all instead of just leaving it as is (something just to have at the end)

made zero sense

i support this statement a 100%.
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Mar 4 2012 04:22am
if i knew you would all tear up so much instead of congratulate greg on his effort and hard work, then i wouldn't have posted at all.

perhaps you've forgotten that, while my group as a whole is inactive, vengance and lazydazy are both candidates for victory in the follow up tournament, so by choosing to award greg, i am also acknowledging my own group's shortcomings.

i may have put effort and hard work in, but in this regard, i can safely say that greg has done an outstanding job of teaching and following up with his students, and it's wonderful to see his students equally committed.

i'm not trying to take anything away from anyone, which you all seem to think. i'm trying to award what i feel like was exceptional work.

the whole tournament aspect was an impromptu attempt at sparking incentive to learn and teach back into this forum, and the thought process going into this was a few minutes to make a post, and the 2-3 pm's i exchanged with TRM.

i already said we can still have the tournament, since you're all so upset about it.

the bottom line is this: sure, i changed the loosely worded rules to my own tournament, but why are you all so upset about it if none of you care about the pixel money?
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Mar 4 2012 07:21am
Quote (nerobellum @ Mar 4 2012 11:22am)
if i knew you would all tear up so much instead of congratulate greg on his effort and hard work, then i wouldn't have posted at all.
perhaps you've forgotten that, while my group as a whole is inactive, vengance and lazydazy are both candidates for victory in the follow up tournament, so by choosing to award greg, i am also acknowledging my own group's shortcomings.
i may have put effort and hard work in, but in this regard, i can safely say that greg has done an outstanding job of teaching and following up with his students, and it's wonderful to see his students equally committed.
i'm not trying to take anything away from anyone, which you all seem to think. i'm trying to award what i feel like was exceptional work.
the whole tournament aspect was an impromptu attempt at sparking incentive to learn and teach back into this forum, and the thought process going into this was a few minutes to make a post, and the 2-3 pm's i exchanged with TRM.
i already said we can still have the tournament, since you're all so upset about it.
the bottom line is this: sure, i changed the loosely worded rules to my own tournament, but why are you all so upset about it if none of you care about the pixel money?


After all these posts you still don't get it.

Quote (TheReborn_Magi @ Mar 4 2012 10:42am)
i mean, im with sane in this in that if you want to run a tournament, run a tournament
and, if you want to give odin fg for being a nice guy give him fg
but, don't (attempt to) switch things halfway through and imply no one else is trying as hard.
because all he succeeded in doing was piss off everyone pretty much
pre-emptive edit/ if it wasnt about fg at all, then why would you need to decide who gets the fg at all instead of just leaving it as is (something just to have at the end)
made zero sense


^This³



But let me give you a solution which will make everyone happy.


Best Tag:
The best tags will be rewarded.

First Prize: 560.00 fg (25%)
Second Prize: 336.00 fg (15%)
Third Prize: 224.00 fg (10%)

Best Improvement:
Students with the best improvement will be rewarded.

First Prize: 560.00 fg (25%)
Second Prize: 336.00 fg (15%)
Third Prize: 224.00 fg (10%)


50:50 Split with their mentor.


With this tournament (prize) system everyone who has put effort in this has the chance to receive a reward.
The already quite skilled people who've made some improvements as well as the amateurs who have for sure made the best overall improvement.
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