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Jul 5 2013 05:50am
lel these topics man
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Jul 5 2013 05:53am
Now this is entertainment.
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Jul 5 2013 06:10am
Still looks like topaz to me.
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Jul 5 2013 07:30am
Quote (nikon @ Jul 5 2013 12:12am)
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Jul 5 2013 09:20am
conclusion?

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Jul 5 2013 09:26am
Great, this thread again, I'm bored so why not....

For the TC, this is NOT a new style, this form of enlarge and blur the render to form your BG is an old OLD beginner tut from like 04. It used to be VERY popular right after the grunge phase due to the immense lack of effort to produce a BG that fits your render. However, it was made popular by people who understood how to manipulate the lighting on the render to make it seem as though it were a BG, those sigs stood out due to the care and attention to detail that went into them. Some of these sigs are still floating around because they were executed well, not because its a new style that you just haven't seen due to being a beginner.

The 'lighting' that you pointed out is also an old style where you use a small 1-2 pixel brush and scatter it to form light particles. Granted it is not as old as the render to BG 'technique', but it is certainly not new. The light source is also incorrect base don the render and you are also missing a light source behind the figure's right shoulder. No one is saying there isn't a light source, everyone is saying that the sig is still too dark, due to insufficient lighting for what is presented on the render already. No one got time to point these out because you got upset very very early, even for a beginner.
Now granted, both these 'techniques' are great for a beginner to produce a sig that requires little effort and produces a a product that is at least 'presentable', when done correctly.

However, as pointed out, you have not done either 'technique' correctly, this is because you are a beginner. It's not a bad thing, it just means you need to look at more resources and get criticism from those of us who are no longer beginners. Also, beginner is not just a time-stamp of 'You have been making sigs for less than 1 month, you are a beginner.' No. It is representative of your knowledge of the usable materials and medium. Some people remain beginners for years recycling the same poorly executed styles over and over producing the same sig with the same flaws, they are beginners. Some people with a vast knowledge of design start making signatures as a hobby and are only beginners for a week or two due to wanting to learn and improve, already having a knowledge base to expand upon.

You are using a half decent render, it is fairly high quality which a lot of people have a hard time finding, and it has a small amount flow naturally, many beginners do not understand this. I think if you listen and put in effort to change your current styles and expand upon your techniques you could be a good tagger, but right now you have a superiority complex that is highly undeserved and will not get far without dropping it.

This website is not a dedicated graphics site, this is true. But this section is surprisingly devoted to many forms of art, both digital and canvas, and has a wealth of knowledge and resources that could help you, if you were willing to be humble and get a few 'punches to the gut' so to speak. No one here will coddle you, coddling does nothing. I used to be the one who would coddle and provide the nicest possible CnC but that ultimately just gives people a reason not to change. I don't post these giant replies as often as I used to because there is usually no need, but there are so many of 'this thread again' out there that I feel it would do everyone some good to read through, not just you TC. The users here WILL beat you up, and if you take it, it shows you are willing to improve and truly WANT to improve. Granted, some of the beginners in this forum will jump on the bandwagon of the experienced members just to try and fit in, quoting responses pretending they understand the critiques, they are a problem, but not as big of a problem as the beginners with no humility and an undeserved superiority complex, because those people are not here to achieve or grow, they are here to feed there imaginary sense of purpose.

So, in conclusion, tl;dr, you need to grow up and you NEED to put in effort to leave your status of beginner. That is all.
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Jul 5 2013 09:37am
hmmm, do I read it or no
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Jul 5 2013 10:55am
Quote (Tetu_880 @ Jul 5 2013 11:26am)
Great, this thread again, I'm bored so why not....

For the TC, this is NOT a new style, this form of enlarge and blur the render to form your BG  is an old OLD beginner tut from like 04.  It used to be VERY popular right after the grunge phase due to the immense lack of effort to produce a BG that fits your render.  However, it was made popular by people who understood how to manipulate the lighting on the render to make it seem as though it were a BG, those sigs stood out due to the care and attention to detail that went into them.  Some of these sigs are still floating around because they were executed well, not because its a new style that you just haven't seen due to being a beginner.

The 'lighting' that you pointed out is also an old style where you use a small 1-2 pixel brush and scatter it to form light particles.  Granted it is not as old as the render to BG 'technique', but it is certainly not new.  The light source is also incorrect base don the render and you are also missing a light source behind the figure's right shoulder. No one is saying there isn't a light source, everyone is saying that the sig is still too dark, due to insufficient lighting for what is presented on the render already. No one got time to point these out because you got upset very very early, even for a beginner.
Now granted, both these 'techniques' are great for a beginner to produce a sig that requires little effort and produces a a product that is at least 'presentable', when done correctly. 

However, as pointed out, you have not done either 'technique' correctly, this is because you are a beginner.  It's not a bad thing, it just means you need to look at more resources and get criticism from those of us who are no longer beginners.  Also, beginner is not just a time-stamp of 'You have been making sigs for less than 1 month, you are a beginner.'  No.  It is representative of your knowledge of the usable materials and medium.  Some people remain beginners for years recycling the same poorly executed styles over and over producing the same sig with the same flaws, they are beginners.  Some people with a vast knowledge of design start making signatures as a hobby and are only beginners for a week or two due to wanting to learn and improve, already having a knowledge base to expand upon. 

You are using a half decent render, it is fairly high quality which a lot of people have a hard time finding, and it has a small amount flow naturally, many beginners do not understand this.  I think if you listen and put in effort to change your current styles and expand upon your techniques you could be a good tagger, but right now you have a superiority complex that is highly undeserved and will not get far without dropping it. 

This website is not a dedicated graphics site, this is true.  But this section is surprisingly devoted to many forms of art, both digital and canvas, and has a wealth of knowledge and resources that could help you, if you were willing to be humble and get a few 'punches to the gut' so to speak.  No one here will coddle you, coddling does nothing.  I used to be the one who would coddle and provide the nicest possible CnC but that ultimately just gives people a reason not to change.  I don't post these giant replies as often as I used to because there is usually no need, but there are so many of 'this thread again' out there that I feel it would do everyone some good to read through, not just you TC.  The users here WILL beat you up, and if you take it, it shows you are willing to improve and truly WANT to improve.  Granted, some of the beginners in this forum will jump on the bandwagon of the experienced members just to try and fit in, quoting responses pretending they understand the critiques, they are a problem, but not as big of a problem as the beginners with no humility and an undeserved superiority complex, because those people are not here to achieve or grow, they are here to feed there imaginary sense of purpose. 

So, in conclusion, tl;dr, you need to grow up and you NEED to put in effort to leave your status of beginner.  That is all.




This post was edited by TheReborn_Magi on Jul 5 2013 10:55am
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Jul 5 2013 10:56am
Quote (Deibu @ Jul 4 2013 09:29pm)
I wont do anything else to it.
D2jsp and my gfx style = no go.
This is why i am leaving D2jsp, gotta trade few stuff i have left on some games and i will be done.
I will be active on a forum with respectful people and with similar gfx style. (Less manga stuff)

But thanks anyway for your input.


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