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May 10 2010 02:28pm
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May 10 2010 02:30pm
Quote (Xandriia @ May 10 2010 09:23pm)
Ill do that, I was thinking of doing that originally but leaving the eyes in color (or is that cheesy?)

Either way, thanks for the cnc <3



Way, way, way, way, way, way, way too cheesy. Please don't.


Quote (ease. @ May 10 2010 09:25pm)
idk why u assume i dont understand simple ideas like the matrix..
but why cant u understand simple ideas like maybe what is is what is?
humans are the most intelligent animals on earth, but why do i think we're also the only animals who imagine this world isnt the definition of reality?
our experiences, our history, and scientific research proves the expansion of our universe from a "big-bang" event
eventually supernovas blasted elements together forming new elements, these came together in clusters to form planets
our planet happened to produce conditions that were somehow able to support life (who knows really how life comes into the equation)
life adapts and evolves, constantly striving to improve its ability to survive (who knows what the driving force behind life really is)
and eventually somehow we're now here talking about stuff on the internet we have created
to think this existence is somehow actually just an illusion produced by idk wut, super intelligent robots like in the matrix, i dont think thats logical
(tried to simplify all that as much as possible, just finished an astronomy class that went over all that)


Noone is saying that life itself is an illusion, what we're saying is that free will could be an illusion.

Quote (Titch @ May 10 2010 09:25pm)
You argue put your point forward well.
is Neuropath a fiction novel or an exploratory work? Are these experiments included? this kind of stuff really interests me, even though my minds pretty made up - conspiracy views just arent liveable.


It's definitely fiction, but there are some grounds in fact. Experiments conducted, though few, do seem to conclude that decisions are made before we "consciously" make them.

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May 10 2010 02:30pm
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May 10 2010 02:32pm
Quote (Veilside @ 10 May 2010 23:30)
Noone is saying that life itself is an illusion, what we're saying is that free will could be an illusion.


May be or may not. I'm quite sure we will never find that one out
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May 10 2010 02:33pm
Quote (ease. @ 10 May 2010 16:25)
idk why u assume i dont understand simple ideas like the matrix..
but why cant u understand simple ideas like maybe what is is what is?
humans are the most intelligent animals on earth, but why do i think we're also the only animals who imagine this world isnt the definition of reality?
our experiences, our history, and scientific research proves the expansion of our universe from a "big-bang" event
eventually supernovas blasted elements together forming new elements, these came together in clusters to form planets
our planet happened to produce conditions that were somehow able to support life (who knows really how life comes into the equation)
life adapts and evolves, constantly striving to improve its ability to survive (who knows what the driving force behind life really is)
and eventually somehow we're now here talking about stuff on the internet we have created
to think this existence is somehow actually just an illusion produced by idk wut, super intelligent robots like in the matrix, i dont think thats logical
(tried to simplify all that as much as possible, just finished an astronomy class that went over all that)


Humans the most intelligent beings on earth. I will vehemently disagree with you there. Most arrogant and destructive, yes. Imo dolphins are the smartest things on this planet, they hunt, they fuck and they swim all day long without a worry, no anxiety, no war. I would like to live like that. To an outsider, who would look like a smarter being. Not humans.
I have to go to work now, but most everything you have talked about, the science the history and whatnot can be simulated. Not necessarily by robots and that doesn't mean we are being harvested for energy, maybe we are who knows. I also don't think you understand what logical is, how is it not logical to think our whole universe is a simulation. How can you be certain that there isn't the technology to achieve such a thing. You are a prime example of your average human, arrogant and unwilling to try and understand concepts that would shatter your notion of "reality". Read some depak chopra, read Place: A Short Introduction, read the DMT: The Spirit Molecule. You have very basic knowledge of these subjects it's fairly obvious in your writing, I suggest you actually do some reading and research in order to understand concepts as far out there as these.
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May 10 2010 02:34pm
Quote (LindeRKV @ May 10 2010 09:32pm)
May be or may not. I'm quite sure we will never find that one out


No? Are you just going to ignore the experiments that have already been conducted?
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May 10 2010 02:36pm
Quote (Veilside @ May 10 2010 12:30pm)
Way, way, way, way, way, way, way too cheesy. Please don't.




Noone is saying that life itself is an illusion, what we're saying is that free will could be an illusion.



It's definitely fiction, but there are some grounds in fact. Experiments conducted, though few, do seem to conclude that decisions are made before we "consciously" make them.


well, relative to every other action/reaction observed by science, if anything in our universe has free will it would be humans (at least we come closest to it)
just because intelligent humans try to base their choices on reason / past experiences to provide the optimum outcome, it doesnt mean we dont have the choice to choose entirely differently

This post was edited by ease. on May 10 2010 02:36pm
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May 10 2010 02:36pm
Quote (Veilside @ 10 May 2010 23:34)
No? Are you just going to ignore the experiments that have already been conducted?


I never said i believe that. But you cannot push one way through without considering others.

Everything and nothing could be "real" in our lives

Quote (ease. @ 10 May 2010 23:36)
well, relative to every other action/reaction observed by science, if anything in our universe has free will it would be humans (at least we come closest to it)


You could not know that unless you work for US government

This post was edited by LindeRKV on May 10 2010 02:38pm
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May 10 2010 02:36pm
Quote (Sabin8 @ May 10 2010 08:33pm)
Humans the most intelligent beings on earth. I will vehemently disagree with you there. Most arrogant and destructive, yes. Imo dolphins are the smartest things on this planet


Stopped reading.

cmon people stop talking shit here and instead, cnc my awesome creation
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http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=43500868&f=105


This post was edited by Konkari on May 10 2010 02:37pm
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May 10 2010 02:37pm
Quote (Veilside @ 10 May 2010 21:30)

Noone is saying that life itself is an illusion, what we're saying is that free will could be an illusion.
It's definitely fiction, but there are some grounds in fact. Experiments conducted, though few, do seem to conclude that decisions are made before we "consciously" make them.


soem people do. i dont, but some do. its a total mindfuck if you get into that

cool i may look into it xD
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