They are such a nubby crutch opener, they are so dependent on lair tech that you have to open with something else in order to use them effectively. They moved burrow tech to lair, and roaches need 2 upgrades to even be considered useful (burrow tech is 100/100 on lair, move while burrowed is 150/150 on roach warren) but they are only useful against buildings. I'm gonna experiment with baneling/roach timing attacks later today, I am pretty much just looking for the new muta harass build for zvt.

haha everyone says mutas are wrecked, and I've been liking when people go ling/bane > roach > hydra It's retarded but iunno seems some people are usign it.

That's pretty much how I am playing right now:

14 pool
14 gas
16 ovie
18 queen
20 lair
22 gas
21 roach warren
24 baneling nest
@100% Lair, Hydra den
@100 den, gooved spines

Then I push with 6 hydras 12 lings and 4 roaches, and I morph banelings depending on wall / bunker count, works fine for me so far.

Hurmm, there are some FE builds that seem to be working really well lately, either hatch before pool or 13 pool > quuen > hatch.

Note: Do you know where I can watch the MLG EG.Louder vs Artosis best of 5 sc2 game? Supposed to be on today.

I've had nothing but bad experiences with hatchery before pool builds, I went from gold seed to bronze after playing 5-6 games and LOSING with hatchery first builds

I haven't heard anything, but I am sure someone will stream it on TL if people want to watch.

Hahaha :P. Imma keep looking for it on the steams sighhs.

Hi all

can someone make a isi gfx for me ?

free prefered

pm me incase

thx

Its always been that way, guess you are either new or just haven't been paying attention for the last two years.