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Jan 2 2013 04:36am


Being as it's a new year, I figured I'd try a progression thread.
Currently trying to do better at drawing as well as signatures.
I'm still learning, but I am passionate about it.
I'm hoping having a thread about it will help me do more art.



This is a drawing I did on the 31st.
This is Éponine from Les Misérables, in the newest movie adaptation.
I've been feeling really down recently and I empathized with her character.
"Her name was Éponine…her life was cold and dark, yet she was unafraid."

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Jan 2 2013 09:54am
Quote (viscosity @ Jan 2 2013 04:36am)
http://sylphe.net/VISWIP.png
Being as it's a new year, I figured I'd try a progression thread.
Currently trying to do better at drawing as well as signatures.
I'm still learning, but I am passionate about it.
I'm hoping having a thread about it will help me do more art.

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/4875/epo.png

This is a drawing I did on the 31st.
This is Éponine from Les Misérables, in the newest movie adaptation.
I've been feeling really down recently and I empathized with her character.
"Her name was Éponine…her life was cold and dark, yet she was unafraid."


seems pretty flat.

Too much soft blending and not enough hard edges within the face

The face isnt convincing that its rounding back into space, but rather a flat pancake with features drawn on it :S

Portraits and figures are very complex and hard to do... Id suggest starting simpler ;/
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Jan 2 2013 10:45am
Quote (UncleMuscles @ Jan 2 2013 09:54am)
seems pretty flat.

Too much soft blending and not enough hard edges within the face

The face isnt convincing that its rounding back into space, but rather a flat pancake with features drawn on it :S

Portraits and figures are very complex and hard to do... Id suggest starting simpler ;/


Everyone portrays art differently, I think it's wonderful but I can understand your idea's.
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Jan 2 2013 10:58am
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Everyone portrays art differently, I think it's wonderful but I can understand your idea's.


its not a matter of how art is portrayed, but rather fundamentals of figure and portrait painting.
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Quote (UncleMuscles @ Jan 2 2013 10:58am)
its not a matter of how art is portrayed, but rather fundamentals of figure and portrait painting.


hence why I can understand your idea's :) Maybe you could provide some idea's for her to start with ? rather then saying to possibly start simplier. :) <3

anyways im out of this thread, i know I don't belong in the graphic forum myself unless requesting work :)

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Jan 2 2013 11:13am
I made alot of the same mistakes when I first started any sort of " art "

I would try to jump into more complicated things and thought I should start with landscapes/portraits and figures etc etc... But I just didnt have the basics down to conquer anything like that quite yet.

There are alot of good anatomy books out there : Bridgman, Loomis etc etc

but in my opinion, you should do some still lifes or more simple objects. I dont see alot of construction and form in this one. Im not convinced its a 3d object.

Theres just alot of basics to know before jumping into something this complicated :/

color/form/values/lighting

I got alot of amazing CNC throughout my first year : http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=47609019&f=105&o=0

A pretty basic beginner tut in case you have some PS questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGDRnxy%5FCEQ

and this:

Quote (Madrid @ Jan 2 2013 10:04am)


as far as this piece though, here is some more specific cnc:

Skin tones have a very wide variety of color. You will find pretty much every color hue in skin.. It is semi reflective so it will reflect most colors.

the nose has too hard of a edge for the tip and is very confusing

the hair is well rendered in the inside, but lacks highlight/shadow and the pieces on her face are too thick and spaghetti like

the forehead seems too small ( remember the eyes are directly int he center of the head when facing head on ) but I do understand there is some foreshortening going on here due to her leaning back.

the lips kind of seem plastered on also, try to blend the features of the face better ( dont rush this! )

but heres the key thing to keep in mind

Please do not get discouraged by any of this! This is the exact stuff that I was told in my starter years... If you dont get discouraged and rather get inspired, you will see true results. just keep pushing through, learn to understand good/bad criticism but try to accept almost all criticism.

This post was edited by UncleMuscles on Jan 2 2013 11:19am
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Jan 2 2013 12:45pm
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just a keynote: PLEASE DO NOT START PAINTING SPHERES
for the love of the internet, you're way past that
Unclemuscles has covered the specifics of the piece, and take it as positive criticism

That being said, the brush work is wonderful, i would like to see more
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Jan 5 2013 08:25am
I'm not very good at criticism, I'm working on it. (;
just don't have much self esteem.

I'm going to continue fix up the original photo and see if I can keep improving on it.

This is it with added shadows, more depth in the face, trying to blend the lips into her face better.
Her forehead is proportional to the reference photo, so I didn't think her forehead needed to be altered in shape.
I will fix the lose spaghetti hair, I had just decided after the fact that I didn't want her hair to be wet like initially planned.
She isn't supposed to be blended into a background yet, was practicing her face more than anything, hair will be blended in with shadows and such to her skin.
I appreciate the commentary. Even if I'm starting with advanced subject matter, I'd just rather do it because it interests me.

This is what I've been working on, it has a long way to go. Ignore the blue, that will be the outlines of the sheets.


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Jan 5 2013 09:28am
Quote (UncleMuscles @ Jan 2 2013 05:58pm)
its not a matter of how art is portrayed, but rather fundamentals of figure and portrait painting.


I know someone very well known who didn't give a fuck about it tho.
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