His are better.

No, I did the calculations (Thinking they could be)

And from the looks of it, the damage difference between Spaz's is ridiculously lower (no offense to him) and the skill savers are nowhere near.

Having 2 to all dodges means the difference between having to add an extra point to 3 different dodges and many other bonuses which are almost everything added together.

His benefits by having to not have to come up with 30 IAS but loses close to 70~ total damage, which is a lot of damage to give up for IAS (Think about giving up 23x 32020 scs worth of damage just to save on 30 IAS, would you?), many people opt for a lower damage bow with a higher base IAS to go in conjunction with a lower damage higher base IAS jav, however by opting for a high damage Jav class and having to spend more IAS from gear and jewels to support the added damage from the javs (massive/ also makes users go into FHR locks much harder it seems from testing, and also when it crits the damage is EVEN more amplified, which is at least 75% + of the time and more since I use HL). Back to my point, along with me having to add another 30 IAS to the javs, I can use a higher damage bow (GMB FOI) and hit the last frame BP and not have to deal with using a Diamond bow.

So this, in my own opinion, is the only solution if you want to truly be a 100% perfect (well as close as we can try as humans) bowa/ jav hybrid.

My bowa has been my life, I have cried a LOT of tears over her and painstaking hours I've spent in my personal life, at work, and constantly thinking about how to improve her.

This post was edited by PuA on Feb 9 2015 07:25pm

k mate

That +2 ama is awesome man. Sick javs. Definite 10/10
Where the hell are you calculating your ias bp's though lol? I don't understand what your saying.

Ghost Glaive throw:
99ias = 11frame
147ias = 10frame
250ias = 9frame

Stygain throw:
48ias = 11frame
75ias = 10frame
125ias = 9frame

Mat Jav throw:
30ias = 11frame
52ias = 10frame
89ias = 9frame

My fav javs are Ghost Glaives at 11frame and Mat at 9frame.

I use these, pretty decent:



This post was edited by NWT on Feb 9 2015 07:43pm

I'm no zon expert but these are a clear 10 from where I'm sitting.

Cant hit 9fpa (needs 250ias with a glaive) and even hitting 10fpa is hard (147ias -needs 15ias shield, nos, and 45ias circ)

2.5Gs for a +20 speed weapon.
No wonder you thought using an icb amulet was revolutionary. In 2015

Cfood thanks you though, Chang and Chiang are going to be clubbing like heroes in Shanghai for 6 months thanks to you.

This post was edited by excellence on Feb 9 2015 07:39pm

435,5 avg 11fpa,
403,5 avg 9fpa, also slow stacked against arach/bb.

your 0% ias ghost glaives are better. still garbage, but better than this.

I prefer the slower IAS that hits harder/ has a higher chance to one hit someone on impact (I've one hit hackers many times with a 11k phys + crit).

No good duelist will allow you to chain him with multiple rounds of Matris, I use an enigma on my zon most of the time so that can explain to you my play style, I like to lead people into my jav, if that doesn't kill them in one hit then I tele a screen or two away and fire a small round of arrows, when they tele towards me I tele towards them slightly to the top (Hard to explain). Works every time I have yet to lose a 1v1 vs any class on my tele bowa.