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very nice but I would still use mine over this for a bowzon



ty rates

ty rate

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 24 2014 08:17am

i guess u wouldnt if u had em

because i need java skills on my bowzon?
17ed 45hp>3jav skills 10max.
also, whats their repl time? if theyre 1/20 theyre bad

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 25 2014 12:32pm

wow dumbo, if you even look at the trade screen you'd notice the guy using the javs is a cs zon. Physical builds like zva don't require skills at all.

9/10 javs spaz. Still prefer mine

Not entirely true, yeah jav skills are kinna useless but the 2 skills added to p&m tree can get you an extra % for dodge/avoid/evade, and on east it will give you a higher chance to pierce target - thats not really useful on euro with bb tho.



They can as stygians get much better ed% bonuses from dex (0.75 ed per point of str/dex on stygians compared to 0.5 ed from dex and 0.8 ed from str on matri).On a standard build stygians should (just) win out raw damage.

However, stygians need the 40 ias to hit the max throw bp (which his has) on a standard build. This means that 40 ias matris have stack vs 10% slow whereas stygians do not. Furthermore matris give flexibility to use setups like dracs/gskull for ow/kb whilst maintaining max ias on javs.

Personally, I used stygians vs necs/druids/hdins on eud2pk and matris vs trap/zon/barb. Both are fantastic javs tho, but I could only use 1 jav I'd go with matris.

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Nov 25 2014 01:51pm

10/10

good shit man.

Seen few better ones. And yes stygians is better

This post was edited by Hore_to_the_t on Nov 25 2014 06:17pm

ty rate

thx, some good points as usual from you
also laz's both stygians/matri's are 1/20, and stygians doesnt slow stack as osama mention'd.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Nov 25 2014 06:18pm

Stygians> titans > rare matris