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Feb 15 2024 08:54am
So what I'm learning here is that with a very high lvl dodge skill these duels can last >8s
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Feb 15 2024 09:57am
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Feb 15 2024 05:51am)
You would need 12,000ish max damage to kill a 4000~ life zealer in 2 hits.

And you would need to roll that 12,000 max damage twice along with deadly strike each time and land successful hits through block + hit rate chance to accomplish this.

Even in your set above, if you min damage was 1, which it was not, your max damage would be 10,170~ to have your 5083 average damage you claimed in post #41.

That would only be enough damage to kill a zealer in 2 hits with :
10,170 x .17 = 1728~
1728 x .5 for Dr penalty = 864
864 x Deadly strike happening = 1728
1728 x 2 where 2 = 2 hits = 3456

But again, you wouldn’t have 10,170 max damage as your minimum damage in post #41 wouldn’t be 1.


Like always, you lie to fit your narrative when the math always proves you wrong

Cerb > this


I have in fact killed zealots in two hits on several occasions. I’ll record it next time it happens. The only thing that suggests is that you’re unfamiliar with what you’re talking about, such as zealots life, how much damage I do with various setups, etc.

I’m not going to respond to you after this, but the math you presented a couple of pages ago is patently wrong. Everything you presented is based on averages, and duels in gm melee are far too short for the averages to play out in the way you suggested. The way you methodically nitpicked and responded to only one trivial and irrelevant thing in my reply (killing a zealot in two hits) suggests to me that you also know you’re wrong and desperately tried to deflect.

Your math implicitly assumes a number of erroneous things, but to keep it simple, the “average” way a duel plays out is a wolf really won’t get a hit until halfway through the duel, it may or may not trigger OW, and the duel is over 1-3 seconds after. Once again, OW is not a significant factor that does anything in fvz duels, and no one is missing out on it by not using cerebus, because it requires time, which is not a thing in fvz matches.

I look forward to your reply which might nitpick some typo or grammatical error I’ve made. Gds sir, I enjoy watching you argue with several ppl per day on various platforms about a game you don’t play.

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Feb 15 2024 10:06am
:ph34r: Melee people are just like narcs, everyone knows best, has spent the most money on A dead game they play every now and then on the sole bases of measuring pewees 😭
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Feb 15 2024 10:19am
Quote (AndrewTate @ Feb 16 2024 12:06am)
:ph34r: Melee people are just like narcs, everyone knows best, has spent the most money on A dead game they play every now and then on the sole bases of measuring pewees 😭


That’s correct Gorran. Now that paternal leave is over for you. I hope you aren’t having to flip to keep your family’s economy going.
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Quote (Leicalized @ Feb 15 2024 05:19pm)
That’s correct Gorran. Now that paternal leave is over for you. I hope you aren’t having to flip to keep your family’s economy going.


:lol: i do that for fun, i dont try to hide the fact im spending thousands (8000 usd for that axe) attleast :ph34r:

This post was edited by AndrewTate on Feb 15 2024 10:20am
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Feb 15 2024 11:23am
for the same reason we cannot get +3 hs in d2r this pelt cannot have +3 oak.
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Feb 15 2024 11:24am
Quote (SpamBam @ Feb 15 2024 09:23am)
for the same reason we cannot get +3 hs in d2r this pelt cannot have +3 oak.


shaddup u lame-o
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Feb 15 2024 12:27pm
Quote (Koston @ Feb 15 2024 09:57am)
I have in fact killed zealots in two hits on several occasions. I’ll record it next time it happens. The only thing that suggests is that you’re unfamiliar with what you’re talking about, such as zealots life, how much damage I do with various setups, etc.

I’m not going to respond to you after this, but the math you presented a couple of pages ago is patently wrong. Everything you presented is based on averages, and duels in gm melee are far too short for the averages to play out in the way you suggested. The way you methodically nitpicked and responded to only one trivial and irrelevant thing in my reply (killing a zealot in two hits) suggests to me that you also know you’re wrong and desperately tried to deflect.

Your math implicitly assumes a number of erroneous things, but to keep it simple, the “average” way a duel plays out is a wolf really won’t get a hit until halfway through the duel, it may or may not trigger OW, and the duel is over 1-3 seconds after. Once again, OW is not a significant factor that does anything in fvz duels, and no one is missing out on it by not using cerebus, because it requires time, which is not a thing in fvz matches.

I look forward to your reply which might nitpick some typo or grammatical error I’ve made. Gds sir, I enjoy watching you argue with several ppl per day on various platforms about a game you don’t play.


The math is correct. And yes you use averages. To account for all the things you mentioned. Of course there is going to be times where you get lucky and you hit at your max damage and always hit for DS and get lucky on your hit rate.

Just like there will be times where you get unlucky and hit at your min damage and never hit for DS and get unlucky on your hit rate.

And times where you do somewhere in the middle.

The whole point is to use averages. When you use your ft5 or ft10 examples the sample size is so low, the margin of error is huge.

Seems you need to go back to school for 5th grade algebra and 10th grade statistics
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Feb 15 2024 01:34pm
interesting 6/10
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Feb 15 2024 01:39pm
Quote (Koston @ Feb 15 2024 10:57am)
I have in fact killed zealots in two hits on several occasions. I’ll record it next time it happens. The only thing that suggests is that you’re unfamiliar with what you’re talking about, such as zealots life, how much damage I do with various setups, etc.

I’m not going to respond to you after this, but the math you presented a couple of pages ago is patently wrong. Everything you presented is based on averages, and duels in gm melee are far too short for the averages to play out in the way you suggested. The way you methodically nitpicked and responded to only one trivial and irrelevant thing in my reply (killing a zealot in two hits) suggests to me that you also know you’re wrong and desperately tried to deflect.

Your math implicitly assumes a number of erroneous things, but to keep it simple, the “average” way a duel plays out is a wolf really won’t get a hit until halfway through the duel, it may or may not trigger OW, and the duel is over 1-3 seconds after. Once again, OW is not a significant factor that does anything in fvz duels, and no one is missing out on it by not using cerebus, because it requires time, which is not a thing in fvz matches.

I look forward to your reply which might nitpick some typo or grammatical error I’ve made. Gds sir, I enjoy watching you argue with several ppl per day on various platforms about a game you don’t play.


Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Feb 15 2024 01:27pm)
The math is correct. And yes you use averages. To account for all the things you mentioned. Of course there is going to be times where you get lucky and you hit at your max damage and always hit for DS and get lucky on your hit rate.

Just like there will be times where you get unlucky and hit at your min damage and never hit for DS and get unlucky on your hit rate.

And times where you do somewhere in the middle.

The whole point is to use averages. When you use your ft5 or ft10 examples the sample size is so low, the margin of error is huge.

Seems you need to go back to school for 5th grade algebra and 10th grade statistics


just eatin my popcorn over here
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