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Aug 10 2017 03:28pm
Quote (Flameyes @ Aug 11 2017 12:18am)
Sadly pretty accurate lol

Why spend thousands on a jstod when upgraded hoz is 20 fg


Same goes to Shako, why spend thouthands on ZB if norm one costs 1 fg? Why the hell at all build a good character if u can build a rand smite for few k fgs? Why the hell to play this game at all

And also - Zaka isnt for a BT build, and im playing with BT build as u see. And Zaka is nowhere close to jstod/jstoc shields, thast why
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Same goes to Shako, why spend thouthands on ZB if norm one costs 1 fg? Why the hell at all build a good character if u can build a rand smite for few k fgs? Why the hell to play this game at all

And also - Zaka isnt for a BT build, and im playing with BT build as u see. And Zaka is nowhere close to jstod/jstoc shields, thast why


we were just pointing out you went for a build (and spent thousands) that isn't the best... :mellow:

edit: upgraded HoZ is better, for the record. extensive testing done :P

more damage and you still hit 49% dr. however, i never took a siggard's into consideration as i play useast. i imagine the difference to be negligible

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we were just pointing out you went for a build (and spent thousands) that isn't the best... :mellow:

edit: upgraded HoZ is better, for the record. extensive testing done :P

more damage, you still hit 49% dr, and more life


I just dont understand ppl when they say: why spend smth on best item if u can get a cheap one for few fgs)

Ok man, explain to me how i should use uped Zaka with BT build, ty!

EDIT: Y, u cannot try BT/BB build on useast, thats why Zaka is best in ur opinion. On EU we can try both, and Zaka is nowhere close to jstod/jstoc+bt+bb build

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0fcr / 10


Ste/10 always

:love:

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I just dont understand ppl when they say: why spend smth on best item if u can get a cheap one for few fgs)

Ok man, explain to me how i should use uped Zaka with BT build, ty!

EDIT: Y, u cannot try BT/BB build on useast, thats why Zaka is best in ur opinion. On EU we can try both, and Zaka is nowhere close to jstod/jstoc+bt+bb build


as far as siggard's goes, it is the best belt and would be used on any build. so that isn't a question

the average damage of an upgraded HoZ is much, much better overall than the max damage provided by an ST. maybe this is just my opinion (and shared among others), but i've played a lot with a jeweler's ST, upgraded HoZ, kurast exile, zakarum exile, ST exile. overall, HoZ provided the best experience

the only thing tal's adds is DR, which is already easily made up. it's all about the damage

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as far as siggard's goes, it is the best belt and would be used on any build. so that isn't a question

the average damage of an upgraded HoZ is much, much better overall than the max damage provided by an ST. maybe this is just my opinion (and shared among others), but i've played a lot with a jeweler's ST, upgraded HoZ, kurast exile, zakarum exile, ST exile. overall, HoZ provided the best experience

the only thing tal's adds is DR, which is already easily made up. it's all about the damage


Str req on uppd Zaka is too high, and if u use it - u have to use Eni as armor. Using Eni as armor u have to socket bers - so u lose life/dmg from sockets as well

How much life u get in total with best possible build with Zaka on? I guess its smth like 4900-5k which wont let u stay alive for more than 5 hits from BT/BB smiter..and u will need 6-7 to kill urr opp with BB/BT on

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Str req on uppd Zaka is too high, and if u use it - u have to use Eni as armor. Using Eni as armor u have to socket bers - so u lose life/dmg from sockets as well

How much life u get in total with best possible build with Zaka on? I guess its smth like 4900-5k which wont let u stay alive for more than 5 hits from BT/BB smiter..and u will need 6-7 to kill urr opp with BB/BT on


the damage from a zakarum + the +4 from HoZ adds enough damage to make up for the lost life

not to mention an enigma setup provides much more survivability

damage > life, imo

that being said, smite vs smite is silly anyway :P
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Aug 10 2017 05:23pm
Quote (Sharpes @ Aug 11 2017 02:19am)
the damage from a zakarum + the +4 from HoZ adds enough damage to make up for the lost life

not to mention an enigma setup provides much more survivability

damage > life, imo

that being said, smite vs smite is silly anyway :P


y, the difference is that i tried both varients at eu, and im sure about which build is more powerfull at svs duels)
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Quote (Remastered @ Aug 10 2017 11:00am)
10 here with a minor question : increased chance of blocking amulet wouldn't it be better than frw? it wont be able to reach 80 hp but 10% chance to block > 20 hp


I have chosen this amu over max block for a reason: I wanted to use Jools with lr in my shield, so i wouldnt need to switch gear for vs VT match up, and since with my current jools i rich max block without 10imb on amulet - no reason to lose life

Good question btw, ty!
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