1. You're assuming the way you build your zon is the best way to do so, but it's just personal preference

2. those three reasons you gave as to why matri is better are again just personal preference

Most rare helms are garbage unless they're extremely godly. And some people would rather have higher max than min.

I'm not asserting which jav is better, but you are and you're basing it all on personal preference not fact sorry

Why do you europe guys think you're elite and have the final say?

This post was edited by Obstacle1 on Jul 20 2017 09:22am

well it is like that europe got mostly very good build/guides

what i see on west/east is that they are missing Basics like str bug...

Theres not many ways to build a zon , its pretty standard since ages
rare helm is better when u want to be 3hyb and have plague so u benefit from +2ama
and there are some nice ones like:
2/30/17dex/27ed/48life or so
2/30/25str/29ed/42life
which are kinda decent , of course the bow dmg will be lower but you sacrifice 500-1k GA in order to gain ~30k plague

Anyway why you dont come up with some reasons why stygian is better than matri? i am curious

Not necessarily, additional lifeboost and CB modifier from CB gloves. KB on bow is overrated, but still nice on javs.



A 120/45 setup is what you'd be using for a good build, with fort. If we are ranting on about zvz? I don't zvz anymore. Any argument I make, is towards zva.

The misconception of damage via the life you gain for survivability has been greatly overstated over the years. Also, I... do not know zons? Amusing, but please spare me your 2012 rant. Are you a europe player? If east, name the game. If you use mods, you've lost.

Challenge conventional wisdom, or it will challenge you.


PS: Also, I'm not really into correcting people's grammar, however, is it really that difficult to type "You"?



Let me get this straight, you argue the use of arachs ... presumably for FCR? then you jump to arguing for the use of an FCRless circ? And do not understand the nuance between a non teleporting zon vs a run/walk bowazon in terms of arguments for jav type? Obviously matri would be better for a telebowa, due to its reduced IAS requirement for increased BPs... Eitherway your zon arguments seem to be all over the place.



KB does not stack.

This post was edited by Mewi on Jul 20 2017 12:16pm

Read the half make a zon eu and lmk a game for 10k fg bet

PS: Max Block at level 99 for a zon, using SS, is 222, not 225.

And funny story, so lets reduce dex for no reason! :3

Matri


Styg




More like, you come over here~ and we duel for free, because I rarely have fg unless I need it for a specific build. Or is that your way of dodging? Add an absurd price to a duel with a random europe player from jsp, to make yourself seem like you are good, when you've proven no ability except throwing out big numbers?

*waits for the europe TR groupies to pop to his defense*

This post was edited by Mewi on Jul 20 2017 12:34pm

Actually its 224 if i remember right not at pc anyway.

So here we come again

Once u get slowed by arach or bb on a bowzon with stygian you drop ias bp . With matri you maintain max ias even eith 10% slow on 120/45 setup. You still believe the ~150 more avg dmg worth it? If yes then go ahead and use stygian

About duel you challenged me acting big i said nothing. So whenever u want drop a pm

This post was edited by stelol on Jul 20 2017 12:37pm

this is all personal prefernce

you argue min dmg and ias stacking

ok well some people like max dmg and on our realm slow is usually bm ok? wow stfu ty

This post was edited by Obstacle1 on Jul 20 2017 12:38pm

I dont need ur permission neither anybody force you to read my posts

Permission? I definitely think there's a language barrier issue here...

you're the one that started arguing here, not me ok?

I merely pointed out the difference in the stat dmg bonus

go back to the circus you clown

This post was edited by Obstacle1 on Jul 20 2017 12:40pm