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Dec 28 2014 03:51pm
Res> mana.

It's easier to obtain mana than it is res on a necromancer, bottom line.
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Dec 28 2014 06:08pm
Quote (breakbeatz2 @ 28 Dec 2014 08:39)
Your suggested build of 4x 20/17s with a 20 res circlet is unquestionably worse compared to 4x 205s with this circlet.  There is no arguing otherwise, you have the same res and less mana.  That is all.


he stated that resistances were way easier to get via charms than mana, my point was that mana is as easy to get via charms, read it again :(
20@ vs almost 70mana from 4scs.

the wall wasnt pointed at you though.

Quote (PuA @ 28 Dec 2014 22:51)
Res> mana.

It's easier to obtain mana than it is res on a necromancer, bottom line.


first spark of intelligence from u, keep up the good work.
Quote (Jeebus666 @ 28 Dec 2014 12:15)
That's true but the math here kinna misses why a res@ circ is good tho.

Necro's are unusual in that they really need max light/fire/cold res and poison can help too (vs kicking sins) - on sins/barbs max fire res in fpks doesn't help as much.

On Euro, Spirit of Pheonix +wisp + white sorb builds (so no res on shield) are quite viable due to the oak charges on wisp and extra max fire res, however with normal gear you'd find it hard to make up the required res even with 10x 20/5 @ scs, moreso if you want to avoid anya bugging your characters. Having res @ on the circ helps alleviate the burden on the rest of your gear, allowing you to use things like arach nvt (for max fcr on cta swap) rather than having to use bbelt for res. 

On East, its self explanatory that as bmanas give 70 mana so its just better to have res@.

Having said that tho, its still a really good circ, great for specific 1v1's like nvh/nvd where you need a limited amount of res and would be trying to maximise your mana. Also the key thing is, as its on West NL (and if I remember the rules right) then mana >>>> res due to the fact the duels are in nightmare and wizzy gloves gives you more than enough res. Also people stack greater mana pots in the moore rather than the super pots, so if these are still the rules, then yeah I'd prefer mana.


yep, exactly my points, but with your characteristic politeness etc.

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Dec 28 2014 11:34pm
for east I prefer life/res, since a bmana has 70 mana and that's only one small charm slot
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Dec 29 2014 08:03am
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Dec 29 2014 10:37am
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Mana>Res
Res is easy, and useless in NvN.
For a NvA, throw on some Small charms and your good.

Kids are dumb. This is easy a 10
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Quote (Taddei01 @ Dec 29 2014 12:37pm)
10/10
Mana>Res
Res is easy, and useless in NvN.
For a NvA, throw on some Small charms and your good.

Kids are dumb. This is easy a 10


The car in your sig looks like a nerd with glasses, pig-like nostrils and buck teeth

Anyone else seeing this? Most hideous car in human history.. 10/10
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Quote (Taddei01 @ Dec 29 2014 12:37pm)
10/10
Mana>Res
Res is easy, and useless in NvN.
For a NvA, throw on some Small charms and your good.

Kids are dumb. This is easy a 10


Doesn't understand the appropriate use of you're and your, calls all kids dumb.

Lmfao
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Dec 29 2014 11:21am
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Quote (Redmemphis @ Dec 29 2014 06:51pm)
Doesn't understand the appropriate use of you're and your, calls all kids dumb.

Lmfao


well i guess hes just lazy but still LOL xD
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Dec 29 2014 12:23pm
Quote (Pelit @ 27 Dec 2014 14:36)
true but the diadem has 78 mana and it has not the mana of the jools = 30  = 108 mana vs 68 mana  u mad?


when you are comparing 2 almost identical circlets and only the mana / @ res differ, while they both have 2 open sockets. Why on earth do mention "jools" as if they are relevant.

With some basic use of logics you should know jewels in this discussion are totaly irrelevant.

Quote (breakbeatz2 @ 27 Dec 2014 20:53)
You can get 20 res from 4x 20/5.

This circlet + 4x 20/5 =  20 res / 75 mana

Your circlet + 4x 20/17 = 20 res / 68 mana

Your suggested build is worse than this circlet with 20/5s.


Its not like most HLDers play like us break, not drinking mana....

when you pot 20@ will be better.

Quote (reyrol @ 29 Dec 2014 02:08)
he stated that resistances were way easier to get via charms than mana, my point was that mana is as easy to get via charms, read it again  :(
20@ vs almost 70mana from 4scs.
 


So if you compare the access of both stats via sc's you'd only come to the conclusion that 78 mana is bigger gain in overall stats than 20@...?

Right?

This post was edited by Hellskin on Dec 29 2014 12:25pm
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