Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 31 2011 09:31pm)
I was working on reposting, but its not with the intent of apologising. As if anyone need apologize for rating an item and being critical of the status quo.
The only equipment difference between your spirit setup and this scept would be 1 fcr ring instead of soj. Both can hit the 125 this way. Since both hit 125, +5 hammers > 3 hammers (spirit+ extra soj) every time.
Mana is almost pointless to anyone that pubs on sc (most people) and anyone who plays hc , so your arbitrary gm rules dont apply to 95% of people playing this game. Those rules exist only in your special realm/leagues/friends, and that's hardly vindictive of the greater population base for this game. If you guys want to make a rule that says you can only use wirts leg and 2X cathan rings, well that's your business, but dont act like this is the sole indicator for determining relevance for the majority of people.
Most hammers keep eth insight runestaff/eth partizan on switch for sniping people with a quick charge and also for regen/charge dysnc'ing further mitigating "mana issues" .
Once you accept that point, the mana argument loses to pots.
48fhr + concentration aura is more then adequate for FHR needs. Someone mentioned trappers, which are non existent on hc, there's only melee's here, the occasional hammer and sorc. Not one of these builds rely on stun locking (which you can still wsg/charge out anyhow)
The 86 fhr is pure excess, and trading damage for excess isnt worth it.
This scept still retains my 8/10 rating, and most people outside your circle would pick the scept over spirit. Both are clearly viable and potent, so there isnt any reason to resort to your petty "dumbass" bullshit your trying to pull.
with respect to the tmc argument, I play legit, always have, but to deny that its beyond rampant in games is turning a blind eye. Perhaps things are worse with the hax on hc.
Ok, now you are wholly and completely beyond dumb. Illiteracy rears its ugly head yet again!
First of all, stop arguing from the perspective of hardcore...this is not on hardcore you imbecile. Second of all, stop trying to justify the fact that mana is an irrelevant mod for LLDs. Even if mana pots were gm, playing a hammerdin with virtually no mana and having to rely on pots for it is bad and dumb. That said, the "mana pots are BM" rule is UBIQUITOUSLY adhered to. Those that use mana pots are the outcasts, not the other way around. Got that kiddo? Without at least 1k mana, any GM lld hdin will be forced to switch to insight for the majority of any duel. Having to duel/cast hammers with insight out = low damage, no block, lower res, etc... In short, bad.
In order to hit 125 fcr with this scepter, you need to use 1 fcr ring AND a 20 fcr circlet, or 2 fcr rings and an fcr belt. Even you should be able to rule out the latter as viable (please dont make me explain why, it should be obvious), so lets look at why the former is also bad.
1x FCR ring + 20 fcr circlet means that you cant use peasant crown...and peasant crown is virtually impossible to beat by anything other than a theoretical rare circlet (the likes of which i have not yet seen). Please do not argue this point, its a fact. This set up also = less passive regen. Moreover, 48 fhr is not adequate, and a concentration build is the only build. I will repeat...this is not harcore. How fucking inbred are you?
What boggles my mind is that you actually try to argue with people who have extensive experience with LLD on softcore...when you clearly have none. And if you do, then you are not fully developed cognitively.
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 31 2011 09:31pm)
with respect to the tmc argument, I play legit, always have, but to deny that its beyond rampant in games is turning a blind eye. Perhaps things are worse with the hax on hc.
3rd party programs are almost non existant in softcore LLD...and even if they were prevalent, it would not justify the use of this scepter and in someway make it a trophy. Seriously man, I'm starting to pity you...its not common to be this stupid.
This post was edited by Ass_Hat on Mar 31 2011 04:14pm