Quote (Goomshill @ 10 Jan 2011 01:34)

Against a character that you want the cold damage against- yeah, its great. I didn't miss that
But what about say a sorceress, someone who isn't really affected by cold damage
If a sorc has maingear'd viper/soe, thats the case where its better to have say a mediocre robo

And sorcs & hammers aren't every duel, esp not for a bvc, which is why I say its rather uncommon you'd run into a case where the cold damage hurts this.

Its like I was saying: Another Affix > Poison > Nothing >  Cold >>>>>>>  Fire/Lightning (poison has no mdr, cold has mdr but is damn useful, and fire/lightning do nothing for you and have mdr)


But I wouldn't be too sure that the limited effect it has on say a sorc or a hammer would be worth the loss in damage. It doesn't slow down charge and it does very little to a sorc (yeah, if shes trying to walk out of a tri-whirld- but 9 out of 10 times shes just teleporting after you clip her). And against these characters that don't swap out any gear and hence don't lose damage or MDR, its a big loss. I mean, its about the equivalent of losing all the +damage on your armor, like having nearly 72 max damage shaved off from jewels (well closer to 60 max). Yeah, good against necros- I don't argue with that, since they want their CBF, but sorcs & pallies not so much.

Its not to say its bad by any stretch- its straight godly. But the cold damage holds it back from being *very* godly




One of the other things I should note: For the duels where you want cold damage, its extra nice compared to a cold damage charm
One of the prefixes on this is "Shivering":
Shivering 35 26 2 Light Blue 10 - 15 to 31 - 45 Cold-Damage over 2 Seconds
So theres a 2 second duration on your cold damage, compared to charms which are all 1 second duration (2 seconds for prefix + suffix iirc)

Its a shame tho, since if it had spawned with the suffixes, iirc and cold stacks, you could have up to 6 seconds of cold damage on a rare weapon (shivering xx of the glacier)

Quote (mikeyjd @ Jan 10 2011 03:53am)

the cold dmg on it is good. cold dmg screws up charge animation for hdins. allot of sorcs use a 24fhr/5xlife/4-5rep/mana resist's belt so the mdr isnt as much of an issue. the only char i see the cold dmg being horrible against is a plague/bowa hybrid since you can stack mdr/cbf without giving up anything. skull gnash it the best barb wep on any realm.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 10 2011 03:34am)

Against a character that you want the cold damage against- yeah, its great. I didn't miss that
But what about say a sorceress, someone who isn't really affected by cold damage
If a sorc has maingear'd viper/soe, thats the case where its better to have say a mediocre robo

And sorcs & hammers aren't every duel, esp not for a bvc, which is why I say its rather uncommon you'd run into a case where the cold damage hurts this.

Its like I was saying: Another Affix > Poison > Nothing >  Cold >>>>>>>  Fire/Lightning (poison has no mdr, cold has mdr but is damn useful, and fire/lightning do nothing for you and have mdr)


But I wouldn't be too sure that the limited effect it has on say a sorc or a hammer would be worth the loss in damage. It doesn't slow down charge and it does very little to a sorc (yeah, if shes trying to walk out of a tri-whirld- but 9 out of 10 times shes just teleporting after you clip her). And against these characters that don't swap out any gear and hence don't lose damage or MDR, its a big loss. I mean, its about the equivalent of losing all the +damage on your armor, like having nearly 72 max damage shaved off from jewels (well closer to 60 max). Yeah, good against necros- I don't argue with that, since they want their CBF, but sorcs & pallies not so much.

Its not to say its bad by any stretch- its straight godly. But the cold damage holds it back from being *very* godly




One of the other things I should note: For the duels where you want cold damage, its extra nice compared to a cold damage charm
One of the prefixes on this is "Shivering":
Shivering 35 26 2 Light Blue 10 - 15 to 31 - 45 Cold-Damage over 2 Seconds
So theres a 2 second duration on your cold damage, compared to charms which are all 1 second duration (2 seconds for prefix + suffix iirc)

Its a shame tho, since if it had spawned with the suffixes, iirc and cold stacks, you could have up to 6 seconds of cold damage on a rare weapon (shivering xx of the glacier)

Quote (ally98987 @ Jan 10 2011 06:14pm)

nice 10/10