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Oct 6 2014 04:40pm
With access to javs like that I'd definitely get a 25 pdr / 3 sox circ with 3x 40 ed 15 ias jewels.

Use foi + t-gods + hybrid fort + raven + natures peace + 25 pdr circ + highlords with swordback on switch and you'd find it hard to lose to sins lol.

Highlords vs cats debate has been done to death, but with foi bowside (extra DS%) cats aint sooo bad imo although I think highlords is optimal, especially with the damage on your javs.

In terms of the "trophies", it would be really nice if you had javs with increased stack size as its such a good mod for pvp. The ones in this post (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67153372&f=103&p=463068947) do, and are thus vastly superior to yours (although yours are still very good). Other items are fine (like the ring) but its really hard to get trophies on a zon :(
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Quote (Jeebus666 @ Oct 6 2014 06:40pm)
With access to javs like that I'd definitely get a 25 pdr / 3 sox circ with 3x 40 ed 15 ias jewels.

Use foi + t-gods + hybrid fort + raven + natures peace + 25 pdr circ + highlords with swordback on switch and you'd find it hard to lose to sins lol.

Highlords vs cats debate has been done to death, but with foi bowside (extra DS%) cats aint sooo bad imo although I think highlords is optimal, especially with the damage on your javs.

In terms of the "trophies", it would be really nice if you had javs with increased stack size as its such a good mod for pvp. The ones in this post (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67153372&f=103&p=463068947) do, and are thus vastly superior to yours (although yours are still very good). Other items are fine (like the ring) but its really hard to get trophies on a zon :(


dude. that jav will get you killed. Increase stack or not.

You need matri base, anything else is total crap.

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Oct 6 2014 04:47pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Oct 6 2014 10:40pm)
With access to javs like that I'd definitely get a 25 pdr / 3 sox circ with 3x 40 ed 15 ias jewels.

Use foi + t-gods + hybrid fort + raven + natures peace + 25 pdr circ + highlords with swordback on switch and you'd find it hard to lose to sins lol.

Highlords vs cats debate has been done to death, but with foi bowside (extra DS%) cats aint sooo bad imo although I think highlords is optimal, especially with the damage on your javs.

In terms of the "trophies", it would be really nice if you had javs with increased stack size as its such a good mod for pvp. The ones in this post (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67153372&f=103&p=463068947) do, and are thus vastly superior to yours (although yours are still very good). Other items are fine (like the ring) but its really hard to get trophies on a zon :(


both cruel and master's affixes have a lvl requirement of 48
those javelins require lvl 46
take from that what you will

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Oct 6 2014 04:48pm
Quote (laztheripper @ Oct 6 2014 11:44pm)
dude. that jav will get you killed. Increase stack or not.

You need matri base, anything else is total crap.


You need 125 ias with stygian for max bp. So you hit max ias with it, even with your build. You get high

The advantage of using matris is that you get stack vs 10% slow, which is nice but not essential. Whilst you get higher damage vs everything with stygians.

Quote (OnAir @ Oct 6 2014 11:47pm)
both cruel and master's affixes have a lvl requirement of 48
those javelins require lvl 46
take from that what you will


Maybe its fake idk as I aint seen it in game, Ive heard of items being confirmed to exist with ilvl 1 though, so it wouldn't surprise me if it existed ingame. The main point is though, that increased stack size is a very good mod for pvp.

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Oct 6 2014 04:54pm
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Oct 6 2014 04:58pm
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You could not get a better ring, mine is perfect now I bought the one from Onair.

2.5k per small charm you'd already be out of fg. So yeah.

Your math hasn't improved since earlier. 16 x 2500 < 79440.
That is IF I paid 2,5k per sc.

congratz on upgrading "#1 ring all realms".

This post was edited by SpAz. on Oct 6 2014 05:03pm
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Oct 6 2014 04:59pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Oct 6 2014 06:48pm)
You need 125 ias with stygian for max bp. So you hit max ias with it, even with your build. You get high

The advantage of using matris is that you get stack vs 10% slow, which is nice but not essential. Whilst you get higher damage vs everything with stygians.



Maybe its fake idk as I aint seen it in game, Ive heard of items being confirmed to exist with ilvl 1 though, so it wouldn't surprise me if it existed ingame.


125 is too much. I can swap ammies with this.

Also, str and dex give bonuses to damage differently based on which base item you use. I made a very extensive chart to calculate which is best and matri would always win.

Quote (SpAz. @ Oct 6 2014 06:58pm)
Your math hasn't improved since earlier. 16 x 2500 < 79440.
That is IF I paid 2,5k per sc.

congratz on upgrading "#1 ring all realms".


that's 40k. you would have enough for half the javs after that. lol am I right or am I right.

Yeah, well I own both #1 and #2 ring all realms now.

This post was edited by laztheripper on Oct 6 2014 05:01pm
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you paid 80k for those javelins? :D
Albeit, eu is alot cheaper on rare javs. but i've seen east, you overpaid so bad if you paid 80k.
i got offered 438/40's with 18 str for less than 1/3 of that amount :3
not to mention the pairs with 5-15% less ed but inc stacksize. which is better than yours.

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Oct 6 2014 05:06pm
Quote (SpAz. @ Oct 6 2014 07:03pm)
you paid 80k for those javelins? :D
Albeit, eu is alot cheaper on rare javs. but i've seen east, you overpaid so bad if you paid 80k.
i got offered 438/40's with 18 str for less than 1/3 of that amount :3


Even if you managed to pay 40k for javs like mine, you'd have nothing left. there's another 100k+ in gear that you would never be able to find.
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Oct 6 2014 05:06pm
Quote (laztheripper @ Oct 6 2014 11:59pm)
125 is too much. I can swap ammies with this.

Also, str and dex give bonuses to damage differently based on which base item you use. I made a very extensive chart to calculate which is best and matri would always win.


You can see from my post in the other topic (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67153372&f=103&p=463122380) that I'm aware of how str/dex impacts the damage of javs. On a well built zon, with sufficient dex for block with swordback the stygians will outperorm matris. Having said that though, you don't seem to use swordback hold - its a nice shield to bleed characters (especially ES sorcs).
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Oct 6 2014 05:10pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Oct 6 2014 07:06pm)
You can see from my post in the other topic (http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67153372&f=103&p=463122380) that I'm aware of how str/dex impacts the damage of javs. On a well built zon, with sufficient dex for block with swordback the stygians will outperorm matris. Having said that though, you don't seem to use swordback hold - its a nice shield to bleed characters (especially ES sorcs).


I do use it. The rare shield was swapped for 100% perf swordback ber'd.

Matris reach bp, stygians don't. 7fpa is necessary. And even then, there is not 443+ 40ias stygian on east (and probably not anywhere else either) so I still have the best.
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