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Quote (Act1 @ 31 Mar 2011 22:48)
decent
8/10


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Mar 31 2011 03:18pm
Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 31 2011 08:17pm)
+5 hammers , 3 conc > 2 all.

useless fhr on sword since the spirit shield hits the 48 by itself. (not that fhr is even  really needed at all in lld)
This easily hits the 75fr bp

dont know what all the hate is on this wep, its  very stylish , 8/10 imo
and way better then a spirit for damage.

pots > mana on a 2nd spirit
The stat savings via dex/str on this wep are more stats then the vit gains on spirit.

Res on this > spirit


@30 this is a kickass wep.

even the ias isnt totally useless, someone gets in your face, shield smash them with smite and then keep hammering.


Dont even know why your raging about fcr, half of  you pvp kiddies use tmc , so damage is king there.


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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 31 2011 09:17pm)
+5 hammers , 3 conc > 2 all.

useless fhr on sword since the spirit shield hits the 48 by itself. (not that fhr is even  really needed at all in lld)
This easily hits the 75fr bp

dont know what all the hate is on this wep, its  very stylish , 8/10 imo
and way better then a spirit for damage.

pots > mana on a 2nd spirit
The stat savings via dex/str on this wep are more stats then the vit gains on spirit.

Res on this > spirit


@30 this is a kickass wep.

even the ias isnt totally useless, someone gets in your face, shield smash them with smite and then keep hammering.


Dont even know why your raging about fcr, half of  you pvp kiddies use tmc , so damage is king there.



This post should be remembered imo. Too much lld bullshit in 1 post.

This post was edited by DJ2v on Mar 31 2011 03:26pm
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Quote (DJ2v @ Mar 31 2011 09:22pm)
Thid post should be remembered imo. Too much lld bullshit in 1 post.


That post is sigworthy lol - argues about ias been useful , but nn fcr cus tmc >

pots > @ lld
fhr is not needed at all

Its actually incredible how one post can produce so much fail info lol
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Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 31 2011 10:23pm)
That post is sigworthy lol - argues about ias been useful , but nn fcr cus tmc >

pots > @ lld
fhr is not needed at all

Its actually incredible how one post can produce so much fail info lol



That's exactly what I think. It's just a ffuu no-fcr hammer scepter with dupped jewels. Charsi / 10.
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Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 31 2011 09:23pm)
That post is sigworthy lol - argues about ias been useful , but nn fcr cus tmc >

pots > @ lld
fhr is not needed at all

Its actually incredible how one post can produce so much fail info lol


unforunately the kid is too embarrassed to show up in this thread again...would have been fun to see him try to back himself up
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Quote (Ass_Hat @ Mar 31 2011 04:25pm)
unforunately the kid is too embarrassed to show up in this thread again...would have been fun to see him try to back himself up


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I was working on reposting, but its not with the intent of apologising. As if anyone need apologize for rating an item and being critical of the status quo.

The only equipment difference between your spirit setup and this scept would be 1 fcr ring instead of soj. Both can hit the 125 this way. Since both hit 125, +5 hammers > 3 hammers (spirit+ extra soj) every time.


Mana is almost pointless to anyone that pubs on sc (most people) and anyone who plays hc , so your arbitrary gm rules dont apply to 95% of people playing this game. Those rules exist only in your special realm/leagues/friends, and that's hardly vindictive of the greater population base for this game. If you guys want to make a rule that says you can only use wirts leg and 2X cathan rings, well that's your business, but dont act like this is the sole indicator for determining relevance for the majority of people.

Most hammers keep eth insight runestaff/eth partizan on switch for sniping people with a quick charge and also for regen/charge dysnc'ing further mitigating "mana issues" .


Once you accept that point, the mana argument loses to pots.

48fhr + concentration aura is more then adequate for FHR needs. Someone mentioned trappers, which are non existent on hc, there's only melee's here, the occasional hammer and sorc. Not one of these builds rely on stun locking (which you can still wsg/charge out anyhow)

The 86 fhr is pure excess, and trading damage for excess isnt worth it.

This scept still retains my 8/10 rating, and most people outside your circle would pick the scept over spirit. Both are clearly viable and potent, so there isnt any reason to resort to your petty "dumbass" bullshit your trying to pull.



with respect to the tmc argument, I play legit, always have, but to deny that its beyond rampant in games is turning a blind eye. Perhaps things are worse with the hax on hc.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Mar 31 2011 03:34pm
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 31 2011 09:31pm)
I was working on reposting, but its not with the intent of apologising. As if anyone need apoligize for rating an item and being critical of the status quo.

The onlyequipment difference between your spirit setup and this scept would be 1 fcr ring instead of soj. Both can hit the 125 this way. Since both hit 125, +5 hammers  > 3 hammers (spirit+ extra soj) every time.


Mana is almost pointless to anyone that pubs on sc (most people)  and anyone who plays hc , so your arbitrary gm rules dont apply to 95% of people playing this game. Those rules exist only in your special realm/leagues/friends, and that's hardly vindictive of the greater population base for this game. If you guys want to make a rule that says you can only use wirts leg and 2X cathan rings, well that's your business, but dont act like this is the sole indicator for determine relevance for the majority of people.

Most hammers keep eth insight runestaff/eth partizan on switch for sniping people with a  quick charge and also for regen/charge dysnc'ing further mitigating "mana issues" .


Once you accept that point, the mana argument loses to pots.

48fhr + concentration aura is more then adequate for FHR needs.  Someone mentioned trappers, which are non existent on hc, there's only melee's here, the occasional hammer and sorc. Not one of these builds rely on stun locking (which you can still wsg/charge out anyhow)

The 86 fhr is pure excess, and trading damage for excess isnt worth it.

This scept still retains my 8/10 rating, and most people outside your circle would pick the scept over spirit. Both are clearly viable and potent, so there isnt any reason to resort to your petty "dumbass" bullshit your trying to pull.


Yes Ass_Hat stop using your "gm rules" to back up your argument xDDDDD

Everyone knows that pub games are where the fun is ^^

Quote (Master_Zappy @ Mar 31 2011 09:31pm)
with respect to the tmc argument, I play legit, always have, but to deny that its beyond rampant in games is turning a blind eye. Perhaps things are worse with the hax on hc.


Hardly anyone on europe uses tmc. And even if they did, what has that got to do with the lack of fcr on this weapon???

Unless your saying the he should use tmc ofc, but then why did you argue that ias is useful????

Srsly tho, if you want to play bm and in pubs - then items dont rele matter, u can just use auto tp, and a belt o full rejuves, sure it might be bm but only kiddies play gm right?

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 31 2011 03:45pm
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Mar 31 2011 03:37pm
Pots > mana.
Pots > life.
Tmc > breakpoints.

4x4 belt with fulljuvs, this weap, more of those duped jewels and allez.
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