Just wanted to update my previous post, Harpoon is the best base. I assumed it was like Winged Harpoon base which is dreadful in HLD. I stick by my statement on the base of the bow though, there are definitely better bases it could of been in. Not saying there are better rare bows out there however. Just wish it was in a different base.



What a ridiculous lie lol.

This post was edited by Mewi on Sep 5 2018 10:19pm

see proof above. or keep dmg buggin your zon
also we talking about closed bnet. not open bnet and sp + hero editor
continue

This post was edited by Fek on Sep 6 2018 04:39am

I've proven the use of min damage and ed can be used if you know what you are doing and dependent on the weapon choices available. It is a situational bug like a lot of bugs are. Simply denying the fact that you were wrong doesn't make your situation anything less than a reality.

Edit: Also, if you think min/max/ed work differently on closed than it does in single player, then you are wrong. So really all you are doing is projection. Anyway you can review all of my data yourself if you want~ I don't have a vita lists written up yet however. There could be some mistakes in the numbers in some places when writing these things up but I doubt it.

Short List of Glass Cannon Zon Damage Comparisons

GMB 160/60 ZvZ Zon Rare Circ 15/40 18min 9 Dex 30 ED RareJewel
Guided 1851-6900
LF 2375-7670
LB 1771-5901
JAB 1885-6877

GMB 160/60 ZvZ Zon Gaze 15/40
Guided 1444-6448
LF 2095-7061
LB 1561-5408
JAB 1561-6299

GMB 160/60 ZvZ Zon 2 40/15 Circ
Guided 1491-6676
LF 2184-7361
LB 1627-5670
JAB 1674-6605

GMB 160/60 ZvZ Zon 3 40/15 Circ
Guided 1520-6813
LF 2273-7662
LB 1694-5858
JAB 1731-6831

GMB ( Hybrid ) Fort Zon Dungos 3 40/15 circ
Guided 1371-6738
LF 2441-8572
LB 1820-6510
JAB 1822-7594

GMB Fort Zon Nos 3 40/15 circ
Guided 1493-7369
LF 2467-8662
LB 1840-6577
JAB 1841-7674

GMB ( Hybrid ) Fort Zon Nos 15/40 18imin 9 Dex 30 ED Rare Jewel
Guided 1755-6880
LF 2610-8670
LB 1947-6614
JAB 2034-7720

Diamond Fort Zon 3 40/15 circ
Guided 2770-5032
LF 1820-6510
LB 2441-8572
JAB 1822-7594

Diamond Fort Zon 2 Rare Circ 15/40 15/40
Guided 2802-5091
LF 2376-8610
LB 1771-6569
JAB 1809-7667

Diamond Fort Zon NOS 2 Rare Circ 15/40 18min 9 Dex 30 ED RareJewel
Guided 3117-5138
LF 2610-8670
LB 1947-6614
JAB 2034-7720


Total Dex and rest of the points placed in Vitality.

Wartravs
Level: 99
Dex: 400 ( Total )
Life: 1819 5 FRW
Life: 1639 3 FRW
FRW: 150
GMB GA: 1294-6311

Aldurs
Level: 99
Dex: 400 ( Total )
Life: 1896 5 FRW
Life: 1756 3 FRW
FRW: 150
GMB GA: 1092-5974

Waterwalks
Level: 99
Dex: 400 ( Total )
Life: 1876 5 FRW
Life: 1676 3 FRW
FRW: 150
GMB GA: 1092-5974

Sandstorm Trek
Level: 99
Dex: 400 ( Total )
Life: 1814 5 FRW
Life: 1614 3 FRW
FRW: 150
GMB GA: 1092-5974

Merman's Sprocket lol
Level: 99
Dex: 400 ( Total )
Life: 1970 5 FRW
Life: 1890 3 FRW
FRW: 150
GMB GA: 1198-5929

Short List of Glass Cannon Perfect Zon Damage for easy Comparisons ( no dex charms )

11frame GA Colossus Crossbow Faith & Fort 2765-8550 Glass Cannon ( avg. 5657.5 )
9frame GA Mavina 1073-3890 "Glass Cannon" ( avg. 2481.5 )
8frame GA Hydra BOTD & Fortitude 987-6348 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 3667.5 )
8frame GA 1.09+ WF & 160/60 854-8036 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4445 )
8frame GA 1.08 WF & 160/60 877-8241 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4559 )
8frame GA P Rare GMB & 160/60 1657-6965 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4311 )
7frame GA P Rare Matri & 160/60 2289-5516 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 3902.5 )
7frame GA GMB Faith & 160/60 1851-6900 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4375.5 )
7frame GA GMB Faith Hybrid & Fort 1371-6738 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4054.5 )
7frame GA GMB Faith & Fort Nos 1480-7301 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4390.5 )
7frame GA Matri Faith & Fort 2440-5743 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4091.5 )
7frame GA Diamond Faith & Fort 2802-5091 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 3946.5 )
7frame GA Diamond Faith Hybrid & Fort 2848-4777 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 3812.5 )
7frame GA Shadow Faith & Fort 1610-6413 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 4011.5 )
7frame GA Shadow Faith Hybrid & Fort 1783-5954 Glass Cannon Build ( avg. 3868.5 )

This post was edited by Mewi on Sep 6 2018 11:46am

Can we take the pen1s swinging to pms thx

double bow is faster by 10 ias, and has less ave dmg, plus 1 lower bowa skills as a minor difference. razor bow has way less dmg, 10 more ias, and equippable str with no reqs jewel

there is no other viable base, tbh. if u want short siege u get lower dmg, same ias, and higher str requirement

ashwood is the best base. im not sure what you're on about tbh.

He clearly uses a robo ballista. 6x 12-18 damage jewels and fires exactly one guided bolt each duel, going only for 360 no scope headshots

A ballista like this would be 132 avg dmg vs 75 avg for rioxs bow
So with deaths and twitch you get 15 frames. Vs the 10 for that rare bow.

225 damage per 3 arrows
Vs
264 every two arrows from ballista.

Plus ballista uses only 2/3 the mana

I would hate to have to rely on amp to be favored to win a duel, when every top lld has charge or Tele. Its strictly not bm to run if youre ampd. On a libny I might take damage while ampd much less than 10% of the time I get ampd.

Of course when you add charms and item damage the rare is way fucking better but lol

This post was edited by Pants1 on Sep 6 2018 02:34pm

Why is the edit time window so tiny. I realize 20 ed 18 max jewels would be like 152 avg dmg but 12-18 more style

This post was edited by Pants1 on Sep 6 2018 03:09pm

You pussy

Insane

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9.5/10 - Purple