nope, at least on hc, we'd use this scept every time over spirit.
Lol @ nk'ing, we dont have this issue.

Damage is king. there isnt any stunning builds that a hammer would need to worry about @ lvl 30

You cant say I'm wrong without backing that up.

Fact remains, the 75 is easily available on this wep, so that rules out fcr. +5 hammers, 3 conc > 2 all , so spirit loses the damage argument. The mana is irrelevant if you have pots and there isnt any other mods remaining on spirit that now competes with this scept. (more stats on scept > vit on spirit) (spirit shield meets the 48fhr bp, so the fhr on sword is also essentially useless excess)


Do tell me the compelling reason to use a spirit over this scept because I'm not seeing it.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Mar 31 2011 02:30pm

damn bro you dumb

if 48 fhr is> 86 (when it is so easy to get), you have dueled some horrible trapsins...

the 125 fcr is>high dmg 75 fcr, as people don't just s/e in lld (sc lld).

the mana is not irrelevant, as all potting (mana too) is bm.

This post was edited by BigSweetThing on Mar 31 2011 02:34pm

Why do you bother arguing when you dont know fucking shit about lld?

1. An lld hdin without 125 fcr is bad, and you have to make a lot of sacrafices to hit 125 fcr with this POS scepter
2. mana pots are BM in lld
3. If you think damage is the only important thing, you are dumb as shit....not to mention the fact that getting 125 fcr with this scepter will force you to use at least 1 fcr ring (1 less SoJ)....not to mention the fact that the damage difference isnt very significant between this and spirit
4. 86 fhr is very much so important
5. not sure why you need 10 strength on a scepter when its already going to be your highest strength item. Beyond that, most LLD hdins have 50 strength max so this loses you an additional 5 str. All said and done, this scepter gives 13 stats vs. a traditional spirit build. 22 vit > 13 stats...and thats not even factoring the loss of life youll have to incur to make up the fhr. Dumbass
6. Lol at trying to justify 20 ias as useful for smite...why would you smite for 1 damage when you can hammer someone? 20 ias probably doesnt help reach another BP anyway. DUMBASS
7. Dumbass
8. im sure there is more im forgetting

This post was edited by Ass_Hat on Mar 31 2011 02:35pm

you srs bro? be less ignorant, please.

the most glaring reason is its not on hc where all you faggots tmc/aa/juv/etc...

the second most glaring reason is...damage isnt the only thing you need to worry about, particularly where fhr is involved. i would think that since you play hc you would know that, but i guess the extended use of tmc has warped your perceptions in that area


and pretty much anything Ass_Hat listed and i didn't, it counts too.

oh, one final thing:

you're a dumbass

9. dumbass.

Whats funny to me is that he is talking from a hardcore perspective where dmg is king and everything else goes. If damage is king why is he talking about 75fcr? If i were in hardcore i'd worry about one thing...the fastest attack with the highest dmg possible.

10. dumbass.

cuz s/e and juvs

decent
8/10