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Quote (Mewi @ May 12 2020 06:38pm)
"rekt most" lol. Please provide evidence, of these players, going up against East's top zvzers ;3


you didnt even know about min dmg bug on diadem 2-3 years ago :rofl:
everyone that´s good can tell you that these players are superior to anyone you can count down
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May 12 2020 11:02am
Quote (EcHsE1337 @ May 12 2020 01:00pm)
you didnt even know about min dmg bug on diadem 2-3 years ago :rofl:
everyone that´s good can tell you that these players are superior to anyone you can count down


Question dodge, and you still can't comprehend how socket order, min damage vs min ed works. Really quite pathetic. Again, I will repeat myself.

"rekt most" lol. Please provide evidence, of these players, going up against East's top zvzers ;3
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Quote (Mewi @ May 12 2020 07:02pm)
Question dodge, and you still can't comprehend how socket order, min damage vs min ed works. Really quite pathetic. Again, I will repeat myself.

"rekt most" lol. Please provide evidence, of these players, going up against East's top zvzers ;3


what do you mean with zvz ?
im talking about hyb/bowa players they dont play against other sins wtf are you on
and once again you´ve socked your min dmg diadem with 2x 40/15 jools
the ed from the jools gets lost
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May 12 2020 11:36am
Quote (Vampiryn @ May 12 2020 05:27am)
Higher chance of proccing Deadly or crit means higher burst damage right?


Higher chance for double damage. When CS fails , DS tries to roll

So assuming you have 71% crit, the ~33%DS amounts to ~10% higher chance for double damage for about ~81% total

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Quote (EcHsE1337 @ May 12 2020 01:04pm)
what do you mean with zvz ?
im talking about hyb/bowa players they dont play against other sins wtf are you on
and once again you´ve socked your min dmg diadem with 2x 40/15 jools
the ed from the jools gets lost


LOL, zons* So your argument is, Europe zon players are better, because of random pugging and tvts, and they haven't ever really went up against actual zons? Oh my, your reasoning is flawed beyond comprehension.

Again, I'll explain this for you. The "ed from jewels" isn't lost. The minimum ed, is lost on one jewel. 18min, is far superior as a damage modifier than say 30-40ed. I know you think, ed is calculated as one variable, but it isn't, it is actually two. It is minimum and maximum ed. Socket order, is also very important when dealing with min/max jewels. I realize, you can't be bothered to do simple testing, or even know how to go about it... but please, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Quote (Mewi @ May 12 2020 08:28pm)
LOL, zons* So your argument is, Europe zon players are better, because of random pugging and tvts, and they haven't ever really went up against actual zons? Oh my, your reasoning is flawed beyond comprehension.

Again, I'll explain this for you. The "ed from jewels" isn't lost. The minimum ed, is lost on one jewel. 18min, is far superior as a damage modifier than say 30-40ed. I know you think, ed is calculated as one variable, but it isn't, it is actually two. It is minimum and maximum ed. Socket order, is also very important when dealing with min/max jewels. I realize, you can't be bothered to do simple testing, or even know how to go about it... but please, you have no idea what you are talking about.


the ed is going to get lost thats the reason why people sock 18 min adds jools into their diadems with base min dmg
people tried to explain that to you years ago spaz even posted his guide made for this
once again eu most likely has the best bowas im ofc not talking about zvz which doesnt matter at all just like any mirror m/u
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Quote (EcHsE1337 @ May 12 2020 02:37pm)
the ed is going to get lost thats the reason why people sock 18 min adds jools into their diadems with base min dmg
people tried to explain that to you years ago spaz even posted his guide made for this
once again eu most likely has the best bowas im ofc not talking about zvz which doesnt matter at all just like any mirror m/u


You can bash your rattle on your keyboard all you want cupcake, it isn't going to change the facts, that I had already presented. Following ignorant beliefs, doesn't make you correct, whoever you are.
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Quote (Mewi @ May 12 2020 08:40pm)
You can bash your rattle on your keyboard all you want cupcake, it isn't going to change the facts, that I had already presented. Following ignorant beliefs, doesn't make you correct, whoever you are.


im not sure what the hell you´re talking about
everything i´ve explained above has been proofen and is common sense nowadays
you´ve had 40/15 jools socked into your rare diadem so the ed is lost
hl is superior to any other amu for a bowa unless you lack frw which shouldnt happen in a top notch build
you can argue that you lack frw when using hotspurs against trap however bowa>trap ( close but slight edge to bowa )
frw on diadem in general isnt optimal the best to go is 100 life 45 120 diadem
you should only get frw from boots/inv

This post was edited by EcHsE1337 on May 12 2020 12:44pm
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dont mind Mewi he is bad at zon since beginning of d2
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Quote (EcHsE1337 @ May 12 2020 02:42pm)
im not sure what the hell you´re talking about
everything i´ve explained above has been proofen and is common sense nowadays
you´ve had 40/15 jools socked into your rare diadem so the ed is lost
hl is superior to any other amu for a bowa unless you lack frw which shouldnt happen in a top notch build
you can argue that you lack frw when using hotspurs against trap however bowa>trap ( close but slight edge to bowa )
frw on diadem in general isnt optimal the best to go is 100 life 45 120 diadem
you should only get frw from boots/inv


*Yawn* you and the cheeto supporter here, wont ever grasp the concept of reality. Again, get it through your thick skull, the enhanced damage modifier has two variables, one is minimum, and one is maximum. Having an 18min, 30ed jewel, would cancel out the MINIMUM 30ed damage, not the maximum. Because of socket order, it would NOT cancel out the minimum ed of the 40/15IAS, if the 40/15IAS jewel was placed FIRST. So you would gain 18minimum damage, but lose 30ed MINIMUM damage. Because you haven't tested this, you will just repeat yourself like a broken record, but repeating yourself, doesn't make you correct, however.

There are circumstances were this may apply differently for different types of armor, but in this instance, the above is true. Minimum and Maximum damage modifiers are complex and need to be tested for correct damage output and not dismissed because you are an idiot, who just believes what a bunch of fools read on gamefaqs.

HL is far from superior, for numerous reasons... because... common sense? FRW life ratios, and dexterity stat. Not even going to address the irrationality posted beyond that point.
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