Quote (Dawn Of Victory @ 17 Nov 2009 00:17)

80 life = 8 stats you faggot, learn maths before talking



base barb str = 30
+40 anni torch = 70
+15 bb = 85
now, to wear storm with -req you need 133 str, normal arreat = 118 str req, which means you would benefit from 15 str only (and if you use upg arre you won't benefit from any str)
with a circ which has a good base str, you can benefit from all (in that case, you benefit from 20 str from circ + 9 for circ, that is +29 str, where the arre brings you 15 only, and +14 stats = +140 life)
and you also add a huge ar bonus thanks to the circ
as said, the def loss (comparing this circ to normal arre) is 2k, which is less than the ar gain the circ provides.
so now : more are, more life, nearly same dmg, and a minor def loss (compared to ar gain)
circ beats arre, that's it
and it's even worse if you compare with up arre, since the life gain is even bigger (since the str from up arre isn't needed at all).
bvb is not all about def, it is about getting a good balance.
I hope you guys will carve that into your brain once and for all

e/

i'm currently using a 5 bo 26 life 292 def visio on MY AOW BARB, not on my ffa barb you braindead vermin

e/

yeah, let's build a bvb with 10000 mana, yeah great idea ... /irony

Quote (derfana @ 17 Nov 2009 08:42)

You fail to mention the enormous defense boost that comes with a circ. Oh wait...

inb4defenseisnotimportantforcharsdesignedtoduelmeleecharsonly

Quote (SilverFern @ 17 Nov 2009 10:46)

You are a noob, you wear enigma on a bvb, nothing else needs to be said.

Quote (Dawn Of Victory @ Nov 17 2009 08:40pm)

learn game mechanics, calculate the CtH difference between circ and arre, and the chane you have to be hit, and you'll clearly see that circ > arre while only considering ar and def, and if you even take the life gained, that's even more in favour of the circ. (as said, provided circ got 40 stats clean at least)

e/ and yes moron, def is not the only thing you have to focus on, as i said, you need to focus on building a balanced char, and that's what a circ like that allows to do

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Quote (SilverFern @ 17 Nov 2009 11:46)

You are a noob, you wear enigma on a bvb, nothing else needs to be said.

Quote (SilverFern @ 17 Nov 2009 10:46)

You are a noob, you wear enigma on a bvb, nothing else needs to be said.

Quote (aragothr @ Nov 17 2009 09:21pm)

Dude, learn some basics about europe realms bvb playing before posting shit in here.

1# Almost every AoW bvb using enigma in Europe realms

2# Mostly of greatest ffa bvb's in europe realms using visio circ

Sa forty, mass def 5k life bvbs are history in here

Bobass helm is really great for ffa bvb, i will change my 5bo visio to circlet if i find a decent one

gz circ > 5bo visio, arreat, on ffa

Quote (darkkobra @ Nov 17 2009 09:13pm)

big words for some1 who thinks that charger is best/most versatile pvp char (easy killing wwbarbs, wwsins, zealots, necros, mbes sorcs etc etc....)

Quote (Custodian13 @ Nov 16 2009 04:26pm)

Only 1 socket, No defense, No Life, No Mana, No FCR...Would never use it. Not a trophy.

Quote (SilverFern @ 17 Nov 2009 12:37)

So because europe is full of shit bvbs i should rate shit items higher?
Duress beats enigma on a bvb.
Prudence beats enigma on a bvb.
Why the fuck would a bvb need to tele?

Quote (SilverFern @ 17 Nov 2009 13:37)

So because europe is full of shit bvbs i should rate shit items higher?
Duress beats enigma on a bvb.
Prudence beats enigma on a bvb.
Why the fuck would a bvb need to tele?