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May 21 2022 06:35pm
Quote (Koston @ 21 May 2022 21:30)
This is currently the best cruel weapon (non-fools) for wolf druids GM melee that is in existence on D2R, that makes it a trophy in my book but everyone's different.


no cos grief is better
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May 21 2022 07:51pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ May 21 2022 04:35pm)
Ss lifers have always out performed 3/20/20, and do so even more now. I’ve done tons of testing and math with Gtmustang to prove this.


You aren’t losing fort for ebotdz.


Nor has using a cruel phase blade ever been a good idea due to its extreme lack of damage.

A fools phase blade does slightly less damage than a cruel but offers substantially more AR.


This sword is shit. Ebotdz out performs it.

With how ias is calculated now, you want a -10 base for fury with 2 sockets.



Not the mathematicians this forum deserves - try another venture
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May 22 2022 05:11am
This Phase Blades were used in original D2 cause Fury had attack speed from weapon slot only.
And when Grief are banned in duels.

So you needed 40ias 2sox phase blade or Fanged Knife bases for fury attack speed breaks.

You are playing D2r,
You can add ias to fury like any other chars now true?

Than Ethereal Botd Baxe >>
60%ias 415%ed -25% Target defense +30dex +30str +30vita


Your item is low damage weapon,
and without 2 socks not offering that benefitt from max speed base weapon but low dmg base weapon imo;)

But really great find in d2r for sure :)

This post was edited by Hamm on May 22 2022 05:29am
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May 22 2022 06:40am
Quote (Koston @ May 21 2022 02:31pm)
Is this something that's commonly said about about trophies? Grief isn't a trophy, everyone can make one, and you're not allowed to use it in any GM duels whatsoever. So if you have the #1 GM cruel weapon for a class, that's not a trophy because a non-usable widely accessible runeword is better? I mean, I don't post here often but that logic is absolutely insane to me. GL here though


First time in the trophy room? people say grief> like they are cool or something without appreciating a good rare for gm dueling.
6/10 for me on this one, eth pbs are hard to come by, and this one has nice mods.
be 10/10 with 2os
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May 22 2022 07:45am
the lack of 2 sockets really sends this straight down the turlet/10
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May 22 2022 09:52am
close but nah
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May 22 2022 12:31pm
Lol
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May 22 2022 12:54pm
beautiful cruel wep, best ive seen.
still not a trophy tho, if 2os then by all means 100% trophy.
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May 22 2022 05:00pm
If had 2os
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Quote (Koston @ May 22 2022 07:37am)
That isn't even true, half of the shit that gets posted in here from LoD is an import that did not originally spawn on the game itself. They were imported in. The trophy room bothers me because D2R is an entirely different game where we are unlikely to see anything like LoD had, especially its imports. Therefore, it's not fair to judge to the same standard. If you're comparing this to the 40ias/450ed/2 os eth phase blades that were imported on LoD, then it will be a 0/10 rating obviously, but your reference point makes zero logical sense. If you're looking at this item solely from a D2R standpoint and not using an entirely different video game (i.e., LoD) to judge it, then this is an 8-9/10 realistically - it can have a whopping 50 more ED and potentially other good stats such as more attack rating or max/min damage, so sure, not a 10/10, but a bit less. It's not a 0.

Judging D2R items by LoD standards is inherently unfair and dumb. Makes zero sense. Two entirely different video games, one existed for 20 years with mods and hacks, this is a brand new video game with a clean slate and no or very little known/public exploits like importing. These video games are not remotely the same but keep judging items by LoD standards as if that makes any logical sense whatsoever.



Lol. The fact that Grief can't be used in gm PVP is *what makes this a trophy*. You are also posting items in here that have zero use/application (i.e., random 2 soc bow with 400 ed) where unique items that can be used automatically outclass it: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=94636491&f=103 Do you think your posts in this thread that make zero sense or threads you create make the trophy room a cool forum to visit?


A trophy is a trophy forever, not outdated every month. The public doesn't really give a toss about all that.
It's not unfair and dumb because the description is "trophy" which means the best that can be no exceptions.
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