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Quote (NineShadowsVici @ Dec 20 2021 01:48am)
I don't give a fuck what this item is, I don't care if I ever find a "trophy worthy item". Some people in this forum are so fucking toxic I will never post another thing in here ever again.

I play so many different games and I dominate at all of them I could careless about you PvE clowns. I'll enter your game with my wind druid and PK you until you want to uninstall.


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lol people literally told you the rating is doodoo so wtf else do you want.
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Quote (NineShadowsVici @ 20 Dec 2021 01:48)
I don't give a fuck what this item is, I don't care if I ever find a "trophy worthy item". Some people in this forum are so fucking toxic I will never post another thing in here ever again.

I play so many different games and I dominate at all of them I could careless about you PvE clowns. I'll enter your game with my wind druid and PK you until you want to uninstall.


You're definitely trippin bruh
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Quote (NineShadowsVici @ Dec 17 2021 09:59pm)
Maybe, if I play for thousands of hours and dedicate my life to a video game like you, I'll find something worthy of posting. Regardless, I got 5000 fg for that one ring and it completely transformed my character into a god. I just wanted a X/10 rating, but I guess your brain is incapable of providing an answer that doesn't include ridicule and being snarky.

Btw, the reputation of the "trophy room" is at an all-time low. Everyone on the internet thinks you are a basement dwelling manchild with no social skills and a garbage attitude.


Well based on what you think is good... I am willing to bet your char isnt a "god"... you arent good just because you can solo hell mode 🤣🤣🤣
0/10 for your d2 knowledge
0/10 for your booty cheeks ring
0/10 for whining when you asked for it posting this garbage in the trophy room
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Quote (NineShadowsVici @ Dec 19 2021 06:48pm)
I don't give a fuck what this item is, I don't care if I ever find a "trophy worthy item". Some people in this forum are so fucking toxic I will never post another thing in here ever again.

I play so many different games and I dominate at all of them I could careless about you PvE clowns. I'll enter your game with my wind druid and PK you until you want to uninstall.



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Quote (NineShadowsVici @ Dec 20 2021 01:48am)
I don't give a fuck what this item is, I don't care if I ever find a "trophy worthy item". Some people in this forum are so fucking toxic I will never post another thing in here ever again.

I play so many different games and I dominate at all of them I could careless about you PvE clowns. I'll enter your game with my wind druid and PK you until you want to uninstall.



defintly d2 is not one of those games

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Quote (Overpriced @ Dec 17 2021 03:35pm)
Melee rings are crafted with:
120ar
25str
15dex
60life
3ll

9min
120ar
25str
15dex
20 life
3ll

Rare rings aren’t good for melee.



In pvm, you use grief, which has ignores target defense. Making AR irrelevant. Along with + Str being better than +min for more damage.



That’s a wrong statement. AR does matter for elites and champion monsters. Depending on the build, +min dmg may actually give more damage bonus when compared with 20str (when you already have 2000 ~ 3000+%ed, 20str is really nothing). This is a not bad ring with 4.5 ~ 5.5 points (depending on whether it’s a mana intense build). But the guy does have a point, str / dex is usually more preferable for physical classes in pvm.

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Quote (akaielf @ Dec 30 2021 12:44pm)
That’s a wrong statement. AR does matter for elites and champion monsters. Depending on the build, +min dmg may actually give more damage bonus when compared with 20str (when you already have 2000 ~ 3000+%ed, 20str is really nothing). This is a not bad ring with 4.5 ~ 5.5 points (depending on whether it’s a mana intense build). But the guy does have a point, str / dex is usually more preferable for physical classes in pvm.



It matters for unique and bosses. Of which you have plenty of AR for along with Eth’s -25% defense.

When you have ignores target defense, AR is extremely overrated.

While AR is good, you have plenty of it simply from 1x raven frost + your gear + youe dex + your AR% modifiers.


Not to mention the point system is completely irrelevant


20 Str = 20% ED for a lot of weapon types.

Given grief has an average damage of over 400 damage, 20% ED = roughly 90 average damage.

9 min damage is 4.5 average damage

For 4.5 to equal 90 damage, you need to multiply 4.5 by 20 times to reach 90 average damage.

Which means you need 1900% ED modifiers from gear + skills + Str + Dex to get 9min to equal 20 Str.

The only character type that can even come close to that is a charger. And charger is terrible for pvm.



Yet again you are wrong.

Don’t type

This post was edited by Overpriced on Dec 30 2021 12:56pm
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Quote (Overpriced @ Dec 30 2021 10:54am)
It matters for unique and bosses. Of which you have plenty of AR for along with Eth’s -25% defense.

When you have ignores target defense, AR is extremely overrated.

While AR is good, you have plenty of it simply from 1x raven frost + your gear + youe dex + your AR% modifiers.


You said to yourself, it does matter for elites and champion monsters, which you will be dealing in the majority of time for pvm. Nobody cares about regular monsters anyway, they die instantly.
Speaking of ITD, there are also builds don't have ITD comes with their weapons. WF zon, java zon, fury druid, ww barb's offhand. You can't just assume everyone is zealot / faith bowzon. You even listed AR in the best crafted rings you posted. There isn't really much you can expect from the Prefixes. Most better stats come from Suffixes stats.


Quote (Overpriced @ Dec 30 2021 10:54am)
Not to mention the point system is completely irrelevant


20 Str = 20% ED for a lot of weapon types.

Given grief has an average damage of over 400 damage, 20% ED = roughly 90 average damage.

9 min damage is 4.5 average damage

For 4.5 to equal 90 damage, you need to multiply 4.5 by 20 times to reach 90 average damage.

Which means you need 1900% ED modifiers from gear + skills + Str + Dex to get 9min to equal 20 Str.

The only character type that can even come close to that is a charger. And charger is terrible for pvm.



Yet again you are wrong.

Don’t type


Again, you already know the math and just being arrogant or don't want to admit it. With demon / undead bonus, fort, might, phoenix, str / dex, skill bonus, there are plenty of builds which can achieve 2000+%ed. It would actually be a concern if you try to max out damage and couldn't reach these goals. Even if your gear / build doesn't allow you to reach 1900%, let's say 1500%ed, the +9 min is still better than 16+ str here (which is a high roll in rare rings). As an old timer, I am sure you already know a lot of these basics.
Is this a godly / extremely good ring? Definitely not. But it's a decent ring (at least worth more than some decent gears in the market nowadays). Calling something decent as Charsi is just being arrogant and trying to show superiority.

Just pointing out some facts, not choosing sides. Those emo talks from OP are obviously beyond discussion.

This post was edited by akaielf on Dec 30 2021 02:42pm
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Quote (NineShadowsVici @ Dec 17 2021 02:26pm)

I know it's not 10/10


So why are you posting in the Trophy Room ?

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