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Nov 22 2015 04:39pm
Quote (marvel. @ Nov 19 2015 04:34pm)
he means the skill aggro range, not how far the missile goes, light sentry aggros around 6 yards further then ds will, so it's way better pvp since it will shoot at people further away



its just that he said "hit range" and not "trigger range". DS banned from PvP along with all corpse skills anyways, so it's kinda pointless to compare them considering you can only use one anyway. It seems like he was trying to scrape supporting factors for his claw but they aren't even relevant. Everything else I said applies and was avoided completely.

Btw, if you're bugging slow fools with fast chaos, you're going to have a main hand chaos..
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10/10 mindblowing
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its just that he said "hit range" and not "trigger range". DS banned from PvP along with all corpse skills anyways, so it's kinda pointless to compare them considering you can only use one anyway. It seems like he was trying to scrape supporting factors for his claw but they aren't even relevant. Everything else I said applies and was avoided completely.

Btw, if you're bugging slow fools with fast chaos, you're going to have a main hand chaos..


No one is anal enough to bitch about DS and "not allow it" in pvp because of the corpse aspect. Its gotta take a real asshole to pull something like that off. So long as the moor has been cleared, 99.9% of pvpers wouldn't have an issue with that skill being used; esp at lvl 1. However, if you insist on it being bm, then thats just another reason why the other 300ED claw with 3MB is not as "good" as this one.

This IS the best warfist fools claw on east for ghosts, and until you show me one that is better and defend why, it stays that way. Feral/Runic is nice, but like I explained earlier, its not viable in mirror matches making this is the more "well rounded" of the two options. However, you can believe whatever you want to believe (such as thinking that using 2x gc + the rest 32020s is the best build for ghost)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Nov 28 2015 03:46pm
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Nov 28 2015 09:13pm
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This IS the best warfist fools claw on east for ghosts, and until you show me one that is better and defend why, it stays that way.

Decarnate's claw is better because mind blast becomes more important in the match-ups where fools is beneficial.

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Feral/Runic is nice, but like I explained earlier, its not viable in mirror matches making this is the more "well rounded" of the two options.

Fools claws as a whole aren't viable in high end mirror matches, so invoking that match-up to defend your claw doesn't seem like the best argument. With that said, I do agree that war fist is the best claw type for a ghost.
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Nov 28 2015 09:34pm
Quote (DrakeMillers @ Nov 28 2015 11:13pm)
Decarnate's claw is better because mind blast becomes more important in the match-ups where fools is beneficial.


Fools claws as a whole aren't viable in high end mirror matches, so invoking that match-up to defend your claw doesn't seem like the best argument. With that said, I do agree that war fist is the best claw type for a ghost.



Come back and make a ghost to play with us :P

Right now based on all the builds that exist, cruels and fools still go back to back. Some reason they're a close toss up (based on build and dueling style). We've yet to hit a solid conclusion despite all the "logic" that points to cruels being supposedly better

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Nov 29 2015 06:33pm
Quote (DrakeMillers @ Nov 28 2015 11:13pm)
Decarnate's claw is better because mind blast becomes more important in the match-ups where fools is beneficial.


We should know better than to question Tyrael's logic.. guess That's settled Mr. Masta. ^_^

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Fools claws as a whole aren't viable in high end mirror matches, so invoking that match-up to defend your claw doesn't seem like the best argument. With that said, I do agree that war fist is the best claw type for a ghost.


Agree 100%.

I personally believe you made a mistake opting for this claw instead of your 436% ed eth rep 2os warfist for GvG.. but that DF is pretty nifty!
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Nov 29 2015 07:02pm
nice claw idd but cfood obv
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