So you try to argue that valk 1.09 + 20ias feral > grif + 20+ias runic for a hybrid / spider? Xdddd

30frw + 30fhr is good


Not to mention you can still hit max trap fpa using this claw and griffs

Yes I always know what I’m talking about.

How do you reach max trap lay speed with grif and 102 fcr? Just wonder, seems like I missed something.

You can 15ias jewel the griffs. 102, max trap speed, high damage base.

It’s actually what I use atm instead of 08 valk

Then have a 30/60/9/9 griffs for vs necros since using burst of speed


Mostly because I sold my valk for $

Additionally, given hybrid sin is always the aggressor in 102 setup, you don’t need cham, as you are never wsg away from anything. And druids hurricane cold lasts virtually no time and druids rarely always have hurri up

You typically 65 vs zon and 65 vs barb and 65 vs Paladins and 65 vs other hybrid and ghost. That covers all your opponents that cold you.

Oh and 65 vs cold sorcs for raven frost

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Apr 21 2022 01:30am

But 15 ias jool + 20 ias ferals won’t reach 9 fps trap breakpoint?

It’s 30 ias feral.

Feral + Suwayyah = -30 wsm

30+15=45

Max trap speed at -30 wsm requires an extra 42 ias

45 > 42

Math

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Apr 21 2022 01:39am

Your right man, as I could see in my first post, I thought this feral got only 20 ias.

So you could reach at least with lack of the only socket slot and the only chance to get freez immune max speed. Not the best trade, but better then nothing

Yes that’s with griff

Obviously with valk you can cham and reach max trap speed and have CBF.

The point is that even with griff, which isn’t ideal, you can still reach max trap speed in 102 and 65.

Jup Right, if max trap speed is all that matters your right. But u still have to sacrifice the socket slot for it.
That’s why runic >> and we haven’t talked about slow by arrach at all

You aren’t given up a socket slot for it.

Yes runics advantage is that you can counter arach slow. At the sacrifice of damage of which hybrids main weakness is lack of damage. Given worh 80/20 sorb or tgods LS damage is minimal, and without max claw mastery and only lvl 7ish WW, your physical damage is low. Not to mention how strong wsg is making your LS hit less often than in 1.13

The only time where countering arach/nosf cool slow really matters is vs zon. Which you will mostly be fighting in 102 for the extra dr and damage boost from highlords.

But if using runic, you sacrifice a lot of damage thus getting significantly less out of highlords.

Under 95% of circumstances, feral > runic.

Admiteddely, Zon and barb are tough opponents in 1.14 with how strong wsg is.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Apr 21 2022 01:56am