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Quote (Stormlance @ May 7 2019 12:10pm)
Does imported mean that it doesn't drop? Why wouldn't this drop?

It has 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes and all seems legal to me. I'm missing something...



It means that it was not dropped in game but « created manually » by some people.
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Quote (Stormlance @ 7 May 2019 13:10)
Does imported mean that it doesn't drop? Why wouldn't this drop?

It has 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes and all seems legal to me. I'm missing something...

Theoretically it could, but since Diablo II on Battle.net has a nearly two decades old infamous record of bug abuse, hacks, bots, item shops ... and these desirable stats have one in a zillion* chance to spawn together ... there is ample reason to suspect fraud.
Nothing new, by the way, just bu$ine$$ as usual in The Troll Room.

* Plugging the prefixes and suffixes on that Diadem into an affix calculator yields 1 : 1 116 112 698 (using +2 to <random class> Skill Levels/Skills and Socketed (2) - not targeting 53 and 11 specifically, only the two affixes required for those numbers).

I'm afraid that your '3 prefixes and 3 suffixes and all seems legal to me' does not qualify. :P

This post was edited by Quorra on May 7 2019 02:04pm
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surprisingly its not turning into a shit fest, i like it :) ntb on the troppeeyRom

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Quote (Quorra @ May 7 2019 09:38pm)
Theoretically it could, but since Diablo II on Battle.net has a nearly two decades old infamous record of bug abuse, hacks, bots, item shops ... and these desirable stats have one in a zillion* chance to spawn together ... there is ample reason to suspect fraud.
Nothing new, by the way, just bu$ine$$ as usual in [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=103]The Troll Room[/URL].

* Plugging the prefixes and suffixes on that [URL=http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81010288&f=103&p=545170830]Diadem[/URL] into an affix calculator yields 1 : 1 116 112 698 (using +2 to <random class> Skill Levels/Skills and Socketed (2) - not targeting 53 and 11 specifically, only the two affixes required for those numbers).

I'm afraid that your '3 prefixes and 3 suffixes and all seems legal to me' does not qualify. :P


Does not qualify for what, exactly?

You show the odds of this dropping (1:1 billion) and seem to think it would be impossible to find it legit, but how does this compare to the odds of many other godly items that are shown here? I have an extremely strong suspicion that you haven't measured this so I'll help you out. This amulet from a recent post on this forum (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79985202&f=103) has a 1:3 billion chance to drop. I used this calculator: https://diablo3.***/diablodb/affix_index.php?lang=en&version=lod&patch=111

How do you defend your snot-nosed reply now?

P.S.:
The item in this post is 10/10, I just asked for people to clarify why this is an imported item when it seems to be legal.
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Quote (Stormlance @ 9 May 2019 10:01)
Does not qualify for what, exactly?

You show the odds of this dropping (1:1 billion) and seem to think it would be impossible to find it legit, but how does this compare to the odds of many other godly items that are shown here? I have an extremely strong suspicion that you haven't measured this so I'll help you out. This amulet from a recent post on this forum (https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79985202&f=103) has a 1:3 billion chance to drop. I used this calculator: (...)

How do you defend your snot-nosed reply now?

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The item in this post is 10/10, I just asked for people to clarify why this is an imported item when it seems to be legal.

I do not think it is impossible, but I have ample reason to suspect that it is not spawned legitimately by someone while actually playing the game, and hence for me at least it is pointless to rate it.

Just because a rare item does not violate the generic rule ('3 prefixes and 3 suffixes') and 'seems legal to me', this does not rule out the possibility that it spawned as the result of tampering with the game/servers.
Given the odds of having 6 desired properties spawn together, the history of cheats and the frequency with which Diadem or any other item type with (near) perfect desired stats is posted, there is every reason to be suspicious of its origin and no reason to give it the benefit of a doubt.

Referring to a topic posted by BlizardSux who is also currently being accused of scamming is probably not the brightest ''counterexample'' - and certainly not credible. (I edited out the calculator link since d2j$p does not approve of external links to competing $ite$.)
If you did not witness that Amulet spawn in the first place, then you have no way of knowing if it spawned legitimately; in fact it is just as likely to belong in the opposite category as this Diadem.

Absurdly rare occurrences do happen, but not legitimately at the rate this subforum would have you believe (not counting troll reposts).

A couple other recent topics - to show you what this subforum has (d)evolved into:

Ghoul Razor Feral Claws vs. Ghoul Razor Runic Talons | Plague Bite Feral Claws vs. Brawl's Plague Bite War Fist (no reason to mention the other claws).

Would you throw a couple '10/10' in there as well? :rolleyes:
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Quote (Quorra @ May 9 2019 07:37am)
I do not think it is impossible, but I have ample reason to suspect that it is not spawned legitimately by someone while actually playing the game, and hence for me at least it is pointless to rate it.

Just because a rare item does not violate the generic rule ('3 prefixes and 3 suffixes') and 'seems legal to me', this does not rule out the possibility that it spawned as the result of tampering with the game/servers.
Given the odds of having 6 desired properties spawn together, the history of cheats and the frequency with which Diadem or any other item type with (near) perfect desired stats is posted, there is every reason to be suspicious of its origin and no reason to give it the benefit of a doubt.

Referring to a topic posted by BlizardSux who is also currently being accused of scamming is probably not the brightest ''counterexample'' - and certainly not credible. (I edited out the calculator link since d2j$p does not approve of external links to competing $ite$.)
If you did not witness that Amulet spawn in the first place, then you have no way of knowing if it spawned legitimately; in fact it is just as likely to belong in the opposite category as this Diadem.

Absurdly rare occurrences do happen, but not legitimately at the rate this subforum would have you believe (not counting troll reposts).

A couple other recent topics - to show you what this subforum has (d)evolved into:

Ghoul Razor Feral Claws vs. Ghoul Razor Runic Talons | Plague Bite Feral Claws vs. Brawl's Plague Bite War Fist (no reason to mention the other claws).

Would you throw a couple '10/10' in there as well? :rolleyes:



It is an import. Was not a legit drop from a monster. 99.9% of items in the trophy room that are actual trophies are imports.

Does not mean it is unperm however.

This post was edited by Ukon on May 9 2019 09:48am
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Quote (Quorra @ May 9 2019 01:37pm)
I do not think it is impossible, but I have ample reason to suspect that it is not spawned legitimately by someone while actually playing the game, and hence for me at least it is pointless to rate it.

Just because a rare item does not violate the generic rule ('3 prefixes and 3 suffixes') and 'seems legal to me', this does not rule out the possibility that it spawned as the result of tampering with the game/servers.
Given the odds of having 6 desired properties spawn together, the history of cheats and the frequency with which Diadem or any other item type with (near) perfect desired stats is posted, there is every reason to be suspicious of its origin and no reason to give it the benefit of a doubt.

Referring to a topic posted by [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=286227]BlizardSux[/URL] who is also currently [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81032998&f=250]being accused of scamming[/URL] is probably not the brightest ''counterexample'' - and certainly not credible. (I edited out the calculator link since d2j$p does not approve of external links to competing $ite$.)
If you did not witness that [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79985202&f=103]Amulet[/URL] spawn in the first place, then you have no way of knowing if it spawned legitimately; in fact it is just as likely to belong in the opposite category as this [URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81010288&f=103]Diadem[/URL].

Absurdly rare occurrences do happen, but not legitimately at the rate this subforum would have you believe (not counting troll reposts).

A couple other recent topics - to show you what this subforum has (d)evolved into:

[URL=http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79914989&f=103&p=538798466]Ghoul Razor Feral Claws[/URL] vs. [URL=http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=81020791&f=103&p=545246271]Ghoul Razor Runic Talons | Plague Bite Feral Claws vs. Brawl's Plague Bite War Fist[/URL] (no reason to mention the other claws).

Would you throw a couple '10/10' in there as well? :rolleyes:


I have no idea what you want or why you roll your eyes at me. The claws seem good. I have no clue what you're trying to prove and I don't think you have either.

Items with 1:1 billion or higher (lower?) drop chance are common on this forum and still people rarely talk about imports. I was originally wondering why people decided to single out this particular item to talk about imports.

Anyway, I don't think you contribute in a positive way to the "devolving" of the forum and I will not spend any more time on your nonsense. Have a nice day.
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