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Aug 14 2016 08:03am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 14 2016 04:23am)
The same way a non-teleporting fireball sorc isn't going to hit anyone. Without teleport, anyone can simply teleport circles around you and never get hit, disengage on a whim, kite you from out of range or telestomp you at any time, all things you can't do because you've got a shitty fort in order to get m-muh lying char screen damage
Its 2016, if you shouldn't need to be told why enigma is necessary
A "hybrid thats basically a bvc" is a better char.


true on all fronts
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Aug 14 2016 03:52pm
Quote (Maddog402 @ Aug 14 2016 03:01am)
Chance of hitting? Lol
See u guys jus can't see out the box.
I get it my dmg isn't exact wats shown.
Any caster dies ez.
Also there's diff builds.
Enigma with Tele is weak.
I'd rather challenge myself n use frw n leap.
Gl dueling with Tele n running outta mana in 5sec



Thx.
Ppl building cheap throwers with lacers is funny.
That's old let's get creative.



If any caster dies easy, want a fun wager?
My caster vs your barb, ft5. Loser never posts in the trophy room again.
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Aug 14 2016 04:30pm
Quote (Maddog402 @ Aug 14 2016 03:03am)
Also how does Tele help u hit...
My mobility is my frw...
And I'm pure thrower nn for hybrid that's jus bassicly a bvc...

And u guys trying to compare lld to hld...


Alright buddy. :rofl:
You're right, teleport is overrated. Who cares about hitting people
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Aug 14 2016 05:10pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Aug 14 2016 05:52pm)
If any caster dies easy, want a fun wager?
My caster vs your barb, ft5. Loser never posts in the trophy room again.


those are some high stakes I wouldn't accept

like 60% of my posts come from the trophy room
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Aug 14 2016 10:02pm
Lol. I'll build my builds u guys build urs. Ik my build is effective vs casters. Nn to Tele stomp on my I'll jus let u come to me. I play for fun nn to prove things to any1 on this game. I'd be glad to do a fun wager u prolly win but idgaf tbh.
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Aug 14 2016 10:42pm
Quote (Maddog402 @ 15 Aug 2016 06:02)
Lol. I'll build my builds u guys build urs. Ik my build is effective vs casters. Nn to Tele stomp on my I'll jus let u come to me. I play for fun nn to prove things to any1 on this game. I'd be glad to do a fun wager u prolly win but idgaf tbh.


Quote (Maddog402 @ 14 Aug 2016 09:01)
Chance of hitting? Lol
See u guys jus can't see out the box.
I get it my dmg isn't exact wats shown.
Any caster dies ez.
Also there's diff builds.
Enigma with Tele is weak.
I'd rather challenge myself n use frw n leap.
Gl dueling with Tele n running outta mana in 5sec


ehm, ok :thumbsup:

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Aug 14 2016 10:45pm
Quote (Maddog402 @ Aug 14 2016 10:02pm)
Lol. I'll build my builds u guys build urs. Ik my build is effective vs casters. Nn to Tele stomp on my I'll jus let u come to me. I play for fun nn to prove things to any1 on this game. I'd be glad to do a fun wager u prolly win but idgaf tbh.


The trophy room is for characters and items that are good compared to everything and everyone else. Theres nothing exceptional about someone who builds an objectively bad, underpowered build with suboptimal choices and mediocre items.
If I wanted I could be a special snowflake by building a 354% ed rare gorgon crossbow zon who uses cold arrow as her primary attack for pvp. And it would be a shit character and no trophy on every level, because gorgon crossbows are shit, rares are shit, cold arrow is shit and 354% ed is not a trophy

If you want to be serious about PvP throwbarbs, there are good guides for it;
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46136681
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=35201018

and there is good reason to use one javelin in some matchups, but not 2
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Aug 15 2016 01:16pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 14 2016 11:45pm)
The trophy room is for characters and items that are good compared to everything and everyone else. Theres nothing exceptional about someone who builds an objectively bad, underpowered build with suboptimal choices and mediocre items.
If I wanted I could be a special snowflake by building a 354% ed rare gorgon crossbow zon who uses cold arrow as her primary attack for pvp. And it would be a shit character and no trophy on every level, because gorgon crossbows are shit, rares are shit, cold arrow is shit and 354% ed is not a trophy

If you want to be serious about PvP throwbarbs, there are good guides for it;
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46136681
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=35201018

and there is good reason to use one javelin in some matchups, but not 2


cool story.
i dont want a brawler i want my pure thrower

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=11899287
how my is built

This post was edited by Maddog402 on Aug 15 2016 01:19pm
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Quote (Maddog402 @ Aug 15 2016 01:16pm)
cool story.
i dont want a brawler i want my pure thrower

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=11899287
how my is built


You have to consciously reject using grief/beast with almost zero opportunity cost to make a non-hybrid. If you made a pure throwbarb with no WW emphasis at all, all it takes to get a perfectly competent WW is to slap grief/beast on swap with 1 point whirlwind and 1 point axe mastery. And since this makes you infinitely better in all matchups, theres no reason not to do it. Versus what, BO sticks? It would be like saying "I'm making a hydra sorc but refuse to cast fireball in duels because I didn't want to make a boring fire sorc". Its 2016, even pure hammerdins have a grief in their stash and bow or lightning or poison java hurl high physical damage lightning fury as a secondary.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 15 2016 04:12pm
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Aug 15 2016 05:33pm
Alright pm me the days you think you'll have time to play this week and we can work out a time to euthanize you.
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