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Feb 22 2015 12:23pm
Quote (PuA @ 22 Feb 2015 19:22)
Any build, if you replace the ICB 10 with 70 Dex that's basically indentical to what 10 ICB means for a Spirit build.



Max Block with non-Paladin Spirit...

/thread.

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Feb 22 2015 12:26pm
Quote (aneas @ Feb 22 2015 01:23pm)
Max Block with non-Paladin Spirit...

/thread.


It's a sorc...

Lol...

DOne replying to clear troll posts like you and Spooky.

Can figure it out on your own.
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Feb 22 2015 12:34pm
Quote (PuA @ 22 Feb 2015 19:26)
It's a sorc...

Lol...

DOne replying to clear troll posts like you and Spooky.

Can figure it out on your own.



I KNOW it's a Sorc... that's the exact problem of your whole build, which also makes the Amu kind of useless.
Sorc doesn't have Holy Shield skill for better block chance and (more important) FBR, Sorc doesn't have 45@ STs with 60% base block chance... Max Block + Spirit on anything but a Paladin = autocrap.

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I KNOW it's a Sorc... that's the exact problem of your whole build, which also makes the Amu kind of useless.
Sorc doesn't have Holy Shield skill for better block chance and (more important) FBR, Sorc doesn't have 45@ STs with 60% base block chance... Max Block + Spirit on anything but a Paladin = autocrap.


False, the 35% fcr is undeniably good and cannot be found on a block shield.

35 FCR from spirit - 20 fcr from this ammy but the MASSIVE gains you gain from the str + life + mana on this ammy and the magic + dr reduce which acts like dr% for ES sorcs (aka immortal sorc) is undisputed.

Sorry, an ICB ammy on a pally would suck, wtf?

Reverse logic, idk, read more into this type of ammy, it's new age, most people are cookie cutters with fletch.
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Quote (PuA @ 22 Feb 2015 19:41)
False, the 35% fcr is undeniably good and cannot be found on a block shield.

35 FCR from spirit - 20 fcr from this ammy but the MASSIVE gains you gain from the str + life + mana on this ammy and the magic + dr reduce which acts like dr% for ES sorcs (aka immortal sorc) is undisputed.

Sorry, an ICB ammy on a pally would suck, wtf?

Reverse logic, idk, read more into this type of ammy, it's new age, most people are cookie cutters with fletch.


Wait, wait... so your build is Max Block with Spirit AND ES ???
Now I am pretty sure it's not ME that's trolling...

And I never said ICB Ammies were useless on Paladins, I just said that Max Block with Spirit is useless on any char that is NOT a Paladin.

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I can only see this ammy being useful in sorc vs sorc for a 105 fcr vita, only. Even then, it's missing resistances for stacking capabilities, so this would be a temp.

I see your argument for using this as a block ammy, but you'd need the FCR on an ammy to make up for losing spirit shield to use a block shield.

At first sight it looks really nice, but once you take a second to think about it's utilization, it's not a trophy.

Quote (PuA @ Feb 22 2015 01:48pm)
It's a trophy due to this ammy having been offered $500 for in the past.

A trophy is something that is of value more than use, and the use of this ammy is beyond godly.

This is for an ES sorc.


This isn't for an ES sorc, and you should have taken the $500 :)

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It's a trophy due to this ammy having been offered $500 for in the past.

A trophy is something that is of value more than use, and the use of this ammy is beyond godly.

This is for an ES sorc.

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Feb 22 2015 12:51pm
Quote (PuA @ 22 Feb 2015 19:48)
It's a trophy due to this ammy having been offered $500 for in the past.

A trophy is something that is of value more than use, and the use of this ammy is beyond godly.

This is for an ES sorc.



With all that being said, decent ES Sorcs either don't block at all (making ICB useless), or they block using Whitstan's/crafted shields (making high STR useless and coming back to the original problem of missing FCR).

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With all that being said, decent ES Sorcs either don't block at all, or they block using Whitstan's/crafted shields.


Or they use perm Bmanas like mine and hit 7k mana and 3.8k life with self bo.

I'm also the #1 SvS SvA of all time on East probably on all realms, so that's all I'll say. :)

This post was edited by PuA on Feb 22 2015 12:55pm
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as someone who uses this build, its really nice. the argument could be used that dex> for mb. but to do it with spirit and not use enigma, you need quite a bit of stats from rings/ammys/helms. 30str here would mean 30 less you need somewhere else. and the fcr is ez to get when ur using spirit.

I never said it wasn't nice as shit, im just saying it isn't pua's.

and saying its not for es, if ur making a esmb, what would u want on an ammy? I use a 2/20/60/99 but that is simply because I couldn't find a nice icb ammy so I made different ring choices.

This post was edited by n9neballking on Feb 22 2015 12:57pm
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