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#31
Nov 20 2009 01:20pm
Quote (MyAccountIsOsterHues @ 20 Nov 2009 21:19)
before starting to talk shit. check if there's a trade topic. I am not trading any of those items.


wanna paly trap vs trap for fun? ^^
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#32
Nov 20 2009 01:22pm
Quote (TAsme @ Nov 20 2009 06:55pm)
sorry but its bullshit 24/7, no matter which opponent u r facing ^^


got some reasoning behind your claims?

There are two compenents here: Frw & Conviction aura.
I claim that both can be extremely uselful vs pure hammerdins depending on the situation.

If you are using 65%fcr there's a good chance the pala catches you in your teleport.
If you use 102%fcr and got a bad ping if he's good he will still catch you.
Now if you got 102%fcr and extremely good ping and teleport in an unpredictable way than ofc its much harder for a pure hammerdin to catch you but whats the point in surviving if you can"t do any damage if the hammerdin is using absorb.
If you use frw items such as the helm i mentioned etc. and precast burst of speed you are EXTREMELY fast and its damn hard to catch you in addition its possible but harder to absorb you due to conviction aura.

I have done lots of duells like that and in most cases the frw, brust of speed and conviction aura combination works better than the average build vs specific hammerdin builds, especially if you got a bad ping because thats the point when burst of speed frw is life saving.


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Nov 20 2009 01:27pm
Quote (MyAccountIsOsterHues @ Nov 20 2009 07:22pm)
got some reasoning behind your claims?


tell me vs which opponent you wanna play such a setup?

e/ completely trash, before i use such a crap setup i strap on a chaos and south whirl to avoid hammers..
1 hammerfield = gg
would like to c u duelling on your sin, drop me a pm for some duels when u got time

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Nov 20 2009 01:52pm
Quote (TAsme @ Nov 20 2009 07:27pm)
tell me vs which opponent you wanna play such a setup?

e/ completely trash, before i use such a crap setup i strap on a chaos and south whirl to avoid hammers..
1 hammerfield = gg
would like to c u duelling on your sin, drop me a pm for some duels when u got time


ww works as well but there are 2 problems with it.
1. if you are not a hybrid you ww damage is extremely low and if the pala is using light absorb than whats your source of damage?
2. The moment you do a ww you can't control anything and its easy to see in which direction the ww goes which allows for a prediction for the pala to teleport to.

what chars you got?



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Nov 20 2009 01:54pm
100 to start the ammy
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Nov 20 2009 01:55pm
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ww works as well but there are 2 problems with it.
1. if you are not a hybrid you ww damage is extremely low and if the pala is using light absorb than whats your source of damage?
2. The moment you do a ww you can't control anything and its easy to see in which direction the ww goes which allows for a prediction for the pala to teleport to.

what chars you got?


its not to deal any melee dmg, and tbh if u just pub assa is the wrong char for you anyway
southwhirl should just avoid to get hit, u dont have to make 324324332 m whirls ^^

i can play nec or even sorc vs your trapper if u want

e/ bout the infinity.. if your opponents stacks res just so much to maintain max res and sorbs the rest your infinity is completely senseless again. actually even worse if u consider you are losing your clawblock
before i play this way i even take a weapon with amp and just mb him with a max mb build. with fb build you got another source of dmg anyway. other builds as sin i count as terribad

e2/ while laughing with a mate bout that frw thingy... the "jodersin" - will be my next guide, definetly :-)

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Nov 20 2009 03:02pm
Quote (TAsme @ Nov 20 2009 07:55pm)
its not to deal any melee dmg, and tbh if u just pub assa is the wrong char for you anyway
southwhirl should just avoid to get hit, u dont have to make 324324332 m whirls ^^

i can play nec or even sorc vs your trapper if u want

e/ bout the infinity.. if your opponents stacks res just so much to maintain max res and sorbs the rest your infinity is completely senseless again. actually even worse if u consider you are losing your clawblock
before i play this way i even take a weapon with amp and just mb him with a max mb build. with fb build you got another source of dmg anyway. other builds as sin i count as terribad

e2/ while laughing with a mate bout that frw thingy... the "jodersin" - will be my next guide, definetly :-)


if you just use ww it takes a while to kill a good hamemrdin. You do not only have to consider the low ww damage but also the higher defence. As it takes a while good luck not being hit by any hammers.
You are laughing about the frw. Have you ever played with extrem frw(amu,diadem,shadowdancers,enigma,4x%frw from conviction and burst of speed)? Thats not jsut fun but you can't even imagine how fast that is! Its damn hard for any hammerdin to hit you at the same time your damage is good due to conviction.
Ofc you can absorb the infinity as well which I have already mentioned. You need to look a bid more clealry what I say. I didn't say its the best match up vs hammerdins. I said its good for specific situations, which includes a situation inwhich the pala has no extra lightingresis. If you play private 1 vs 1 then you opponent is most likely to be able to stack those resis hwoever if you play in pubs then most people do not have perfect absorbtion + high stack resis equiptment because the stash is simple too small for that especially if they are using precast items as well. Like with sorcs frw can be even useful on an assassine once again depending on your oponent, on your skill, ping, and the equipment he uses.

You are saying you might do it with max mb but not all assass got max mind blast, so other ways are needed.

just to highlight how hard it is to catch you with all that frw stuff. Take amazones. fast frw snipers are harder to catch with a hammerdin than most other chars. The assa is much and I mean MUCH! faster than any amazone in addition to that you got stun from mb and traps.

This post was edited by MyAccountIsOsterHues on Nov 20 2009 03:08pm
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#38
Nov 20 2009 03:20pm
You are on some sort of holiday and yet you got time to do all those pointless posts?
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Nov 20 2009 03:21pm
Quote (MyAccountIsOsterHues @ Nov 20 2009 04:02pm)
if you just use ww it takes a while to kill a good hamemrdin. You do not only have to consider the low ww damage but also the higher defence. As it takes a while good luck not being hit by any hammers.
You are laughing about the frw. Have you ever played with extrem frw(amu,diadem,shadowdancers,enigma,4x%frw from conviction and burst of speed)? Thats not jsut fun but you can't even imagine how fast that is! Its damn hard for any hammerdin to hit you at the same time your damage is good due to conviction.
Ofc you can absorb the infinity as well which I have already mentioned. You need to look a bid more clealry what I say. I didn't say its the best match up vs hammerdins. I said its good for specific situations, which includes a situation inwhich the pala has no extra lightingresis. If you play private 1 vs 1 then you opponent is most likely to be able to stack those resis hwoever if you play in pubs then most people do not have perfect absorbtion + high stack resis equiptment because the stash is simple too small for that especially if they are using precast items as well. Like with sorcs frw can be even useful on an assassine once again depending on your oponent, on your skill, ping, and the equipment he uses.

You are saying you might do it with max mb but not all assass got max mind blast, so other ways are needed.

just to highlight how hard it is to catch you with all that frw stuff. Take amazones. fast frw snipers are harder to catch with a hammerdin than most other chars. The assa is much and I mean MUCH! faster than any amazone in addition to that you got stun from mb and traps.


tl;dr donordog troll [/orange]

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#40
Nov 20 2009 04:32pm
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he cannot becos it is so urgent that everyone see his gg characters/10


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