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Quote (m4o @ Aug 30 2023 02:32pm)
8.5/10

as many said, youd usually go for str on amu since it can just roll higher.

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All these noobs saying str/life > life/@res :lol:
Can easily get 156 str without adding a single point and without str on ammy

8/10. Res could be higher

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Quote (Boogaloo @ Sep 3 2023 03:45am)
All these noobs saying str/life > life/@res :lol:
Can easily get 156 str without adding a single point and without str on ammy

8/10. Res could be higher


Reaching 156 str is not the point though, obviously there are plenty of ways to reach that especially with trophy level gear. The point is to optimize for which stats you go for on which items. Str can roll exceptionally high on Amus compared to allres which means you can free up rolls on other slots more efficiently.

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Reaching 156 str is not the point though, obviously there are plenty of ways to reach that especially with trophy level gear. The point is to optimize for which stats you go for on which items. Str can roll exceptionally high on Amus compared to allres which means you can free up rolls on other slots more efficiently.


you're already forced into using 1-2 fcr rings with str/life/@res being optimal depending on what setup you're using. pair that with 08 str boots and you have 156+ str even with only 1 fcr ring in the case of hoto/circ setup
tell my why stacked str is better than stacked res again?

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you're already forced into using 1-2 fcr rings with str/life/@res being optimal depending on what setup you're using. pair that with 08 str boots and you have 156+ str even with only 1 fcr ring in the case of hoto/circ setup
tell my why stacked str is better than stacked res again?


thats the point. you are forced into using str rolls on both your rings or going with some sub optimal str boots instead of proper crafts.

30str vs 20@ on amu makes it efficient to use the str roll to reach 156 and free up str rolls on other slots so you dont have to do exactly what you just described.

Its about making smart choices on where to put your necessary str to optimize for pvp relevant stats like life, res, rep..

Quote (Boogaloo @ Sep 4 2023 04:52pm)
tell my why stacked str is better than stacked res again?


stacking str makes no sense and nobody ever said that here, lets retain basic honesty.

getting necessary str to reach 156 from slots where you can get it the easiest to minize loss of other pvp relevant stats is super basic, i dont even know why this needs to be discussed. and again a top @res craft amu is fine, this discussion is based on going all out on a trophy build where you want to push it as far as possible.



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thats the point. you are forced into using str rolls on both your rings or going with some sub optimal str boots instead of proper crafts.

30str vs 20@ on amu makes it efficient to use the str roll to reach 156 and free up str rolls on other slots so you dont have to do exactly what you just described.

Its about making smart choices on where to put your necessary str to optimize for pvp relevant stats like life, res, rep..



stacking str makes no sense and nobody ever said that here, lets retain basic honesty.

getting necessary str to reach 156 from slots where you can get it the easiest to minize loss of other pvp relevant stats is super basic, i dont even know why this needs to be discussed. and again a top @res craft amu is fine, this discussion is based on going all out on a trophy build where you want to push it as far as possible.


you'd call 30/20/str/tri res boots suboptimal lol?
if you're rocking sop on main + swap, without mass LR on boots and res on ammy, you're not hitting 80+ lr in hell on swap. and since sin is easily the biggest problem for druid you need to maximize chances to survive.
unless you have wiz gloves, you always want res on ammy + boots unless you exclusively duel in nm in sweaty fpk duels
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Quote (Boogaloo @ Sep 4 2023 06:11pm)
you'd call 30/20/str/tri res boots suboptimal lol?
if you're rocking sop on main + swap, without mass LR on boots and res on ammy, you're not hitting 80+ lr in hell on swap. and since sin is easily the biggest problem for druid you need to maximize chances to survive.
unless you have wiz gloves, you always want res on ammy + boots unless you exclusively duel in nm in sweaty fpk duels



unless you want to tell me you are running one single item built for different elemental matchups those boots are sub optimal. If this is indeed what you want to tell me, you lack switch gear.

apart from that how in the world will you justify losing up to 20 base life and 9 life rep on solid craft boots that btw. can also come with tri res if you got a fetish for it just because you made a bad call on the amu and went with 20@ instead of 30str and now have to compensate with boots?

those are exactly the suboptimal build choices im talking about. and with those boots you only compensated 2/3 of the str on the amu potentially losing a ring roll to str too.

in detail

your choice: 20@ (amu) + 30frw + 20str + tri res (boots) vs 30str (amu) +30frw + 20 life + 9 rep + tri res(boots) -->you traded 20@ vs 10str 20life 9 rep

and this doesnt even consider that you:

1. will likely lose another ring roll to str which could instead be rep/mana/res/life
2. your 08 boots potentially have less res than craft boots depending on which boots you are talking about exactly

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Quote (m4o @ Sep 4 2023 09:51am)
unless you want to tell me you are running one single item built for different elemental matchups those boots are sub optimal. If this is indeed what you want to tell me, you lack switch gear.

apart from that how in the world will you justify losing up to 20 base life and 9 life rep on solid craft boots that btw. can also come with tri res if you got a fetish for it just because you made a bad call on the amu and went with 20@ instead of 30str and now have to compensate with boots?

those are exactly the suboptimal build choices im talking about. and with those boots you only compensated 2/3 of the str on the amu potentially losing a ring roll to str too.

in detail

your choice: 20@ (amu) + 30frw + 20str + tri res (boots) vs 30str (amu) +30frw + 20 life + 9 rep + tri res(boots)-->you traded 20@ vs 10str 20life 9 rep

and this doesnt even consider that you:

1. will likely lose another ring roll to str which could instead be rep/mana/res/life
2. your 08 boots potentially have less res than craft boots depending on which boots you are talking about exactly


Best of West Ofc



This post was edited by Yannzilla on Sep 4 2023 01:04pm
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nice amu
but mass str hp combo beats that life @ combo
coz more flixible on switches and ez str bug
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