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n more ed 8/10

what i thought first too, but i dont know how handy the -30req is, so i cant rly vote this. still looks pretty awesome to me


Quote (]GS[ Controller @ Feb 29 2012 09:54am)
i strongly beg to differ

12 max is in no way > 100 defense on a zealer (unless your extremely short on defense and poorly built, which shouldn't be the case with such armor being in possession)

however on a concer there is hands down no comparison


how do i know this?

Zealld has never lost a round in any tournament, ever.
As well as the fact that after a certain break point is hit on a zealer (unsaid ofc) a large amount of defense is needed to make any difference vs 85-90% of other melee 18 characters, thus rendering the -30 reqs better on a zealer.

u dont need to think about the average built imo (since w/ items like this on your char average ppl arent even real sparring partners for you), just imagine top notch chars and the only difference is the armor, the rest can be calculated if u put some effort into it. also if im not mistaken, armors cannot have 12 maxdmg, so u shoudlnt discuss about it from a min/max point of view u can always HEL the other armor and put equal jewels in it (if u search long enough for them i guess :p )
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Quote (Njeng @ Mar 4 2012 03:26pm)
u dont need to think about the average built imo (since w/ items like this on your char average ppl arent even real sparring partners for you), just imagine top notch chars and the only difference is the armor, the rest can be calculated if u put some effort into it. also if im not mistaken, armors cannot have 12 maxdmg, so u shoudlnt discuss about it from a min/max point of view u can always HEL the other armor and put equal jewels in it (if u search long enough for them i guess :p )


The twelve max damage is from a comparison of plain 20 max jewels (x2) to 14max/-15 req jewels (x2) but into a armor with higher def to give the same -req (40-28=12)
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The twelve max damage is from a comparison of plain 20 max jewels (x2) to 14max/-15 req jewels (x2) but into a armor with higher def to give the same -req (40-28=12)


t4i. as i said i dont rly know alot about xpac, which weapons are used / str required etc, but i guessed 30 str is not as big of a deal in lvl 18 duels as it wud be in classic (since u got no charms there to push life and the str also boosts dmg from min/max stuff)
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It is as Gs is saying this armor is better for a paladin with that as a base, making it not need jewels to use. I have a different one which is better for a baba due to higher def but no base -req.
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Quote (nickxcore @ Mar 4 2012 04:17pm)
It is as Gs is saying this armor is better for a paladin with that as a base, making it not need jewels to use. I have a different one which is better for a baba due to higher def but no base -req.


well put

imo there is no way to compare which of these 2 armors is truly better because they are both #1 in their own way.

Amazing pieces to a build non-the-less.
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