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Dec 6 2022 05:27am
Quote (chum @ Dec 6 2022 08:46am)
Crazy dmg for a bladesin. Noidea about ias/bp


whats your view on the divine?
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Dec 6 2022 05:38am
Generally I like medi on my hammer side, but that's just the way that I like to play. This will give you perfect hammer dmg which is very sexy. It just means you need medi on switch (maybe with foh or 2 hand insight).

For me it's 9.5/10
If it had medi instead of vigor it would be 10/10 (for me)

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Generally I like medi on my hammer side, but that's just the way that I like to pay. This will give you perfect hammer dmg which is very sexy. It just means you need medi on switch (maybe with foh or 2 hand insight).

For me it's 9.5/10
If it had medi instead of vigor it would be 10/10 (for me)


yea thats my view as well.
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Dec 6 2022 09:49am
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Generally I like medi on my hammer side, but that's just the way that I like to play. This will give you perfect hammer dmg which is very sexy. It just means you need medi on switch (maybe with foh or 2 hand insight).

For me it's 9.5/10
If it had medi instead of vigor it would be 10/10 (for me)


Quote (ferdia @ Dec 6 2022 06:40am)
yea thats my view as well.


Keep in mind, that with this, I get access to vigor for vigor/charge. Previously only accessible with tearhaunches, since we can’t spec vigor. That way I can actually use CK, Sanders, or even goblin toes for my boots based on matchups.

I actually prefer having vigor as staff mod over medi.
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Dec 6 2022 09:57am
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Keep in mind, that with this, I get access to vigor for vigor/charge. Previously only accessible with tearhaunches, since we can’t spec vigor. That way I can actually use CK, Sanders, or even goblin toes for my boots based on matchups.

I actually prefer having vigor as staff mod over medi.


But do you have medi on swap or how do you repl mana ? skilling medi is bold! :)
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Dec 6 2022 09:58am
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But do you have medi on swap or how do you repl mana ? skilling medi is bold! :)


Yeah I keep medi on swap hahaha
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Dec 6 2022 10:42am
Quote (ThisDonger @ Dec 6 2022 03:58pm)
Yeah I keep medi on swap hahaha


Your Divine is amazing, and a trophy. While accepting some people do not see magic, base, set, unique items or runewords as trophies my own view is that if its Best in Slot (or close to BIS) its a trophy, regardless of set/unique/craft/rare/magic/white. So a perfect runeword base to my mind is a trophy, as is a perfect eth upped shaft with perf def. So while we can argue the merits of 9.5/10 and 10/10 (not 15ed not 3vigor or not a rare with all these mods) and peoples interpretations (or stickiest instructions) on what constitutes a trophy, spare a moment for the poor unfortunates who have gg items but people dont acknowledge them whatsoever. Here is a gg lld item that some people think is not a trophy and which led to the topic being closed: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95583025&f=103&o=100 9 months after it spawned we have still not seen a better LLD necro shield, and the last PC on it that i saw was 16,000? fg with multiple users all wanting it.

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Your Divine is amazing, and a trophy. While accepting some people do not see magic, base items or runewords as trophies my own view is that if its Best in Slot (or close to BIS) its a trophy, regardless of set/unique/craft/rare/magic/white. So while we can argue the merits of 9.5/10 and 10/10 (not 15ed not 3vigor or not a rare with all these mods) and peoples interpretations (or stickiest instructions) on what constitutes a trophy, spare a moment for the poor unfortunates who have gg items but people dont acknowledge them whatsoever. Here is a gg lld item that some people think is not a trophy and which led to the topic being closed: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95583025&f=103&o=100 9 months after it spawned we have still not seen a better LLD necro shield, and the last PC on it that i saw was 16,000? fg.


same used to happen to eth/rep weapons, because 99/100 times they spawn 1 os. if u look at the mod table 1 os isn't NEARLY as bad on an LLD weapon as it is on an HLD one, for a number of reasons.
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Dec 6 2022 10:48am
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same used to happen to eth/rep weapons, because 99/100 times they spawn 1 os. if u look at the mod table 1 os isn't NEARLY as bad on an LLD weapon as it is on an HLD one, for a number of reasons.


In addition, at high levels high runes can be put in items, but at lower levels thats not the case (level restrictions hey) which means that while we want 2 sox in our items, its not mandatory. so orbs at LLD/MLD dont need 2 sox (2 sox helps ofc but not a deal breaker), necro shields dont need 2 sox (esp if they have repl life mod) and circlets, while we want 2 sox, we need 2/30/20/90mana <- this or better at this stage is a trophy.
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Dec 6 2022 10:55am
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In addition, at high levels high runes can be put in items, but at lower levels thats not the case (level restrictions hey) which means that while we want 2 sox in our items, its not mandatory. so orbs at LLD/MLD dont need 2 sox (2 sox helps ofc but not a deal breaker), necro shields dont need 2 sox (esp if they have repl life mod) and circlets, while we want 2 sox, we need 2/30/20/90mana <- this or better at this stage is a trophy.


i tried to explain to Bui that Eth would have been the 2nd socket. so in general a +rep base will always beat a 2 os magic one. HLD players tend to undervalue both replife and regen mana, but i'll also say the HLD players that joined the D2c team event adapted quickly.
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