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Nov 27 2022 04:12pm
just a lot of cookie cutter/mediocre items.
not 1 truly gg item
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Nov 27 2022 04:41pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Nov 27 2022 04:20pm)
Trophies are one-of-a-kind items

Runewords aren’t trophies
Uniques aren’t trophies
Magic items aren’t trophies

“Good” items are not trophies.


Separately I agree if it was couple items.
But full Bowzon with fully almost perfect items/jewels that 95% of us won’t have or afford are a Trophy Bowzon!

Quote (c1nascimento @ Nov 27 2022 04:43pm)
Ok so basically rare/crafted items worth 50-100k+++ each.

Then it was my mistake here.


You Bowzon still very GG, whole char together IMO count as a trophy :)
95% of D2R players won’t have anything remotely close to yours including me.
Many are Shako chars in baal runs lol

Quote (dsQ @ Nov 27 2022 04:44pm)
There are specific rules for the trophy room, i do not make the rules but there is a reason for them. If every perfect runeword or unique was a trophy the room would be flooded with the same items over and over.. The standard isnt too high, also there is a difference between a trophy character at 1Mill FG and a trophy item, you can get a GG rare Trophy for 20-30K with some luck or actually find one. I do not mean to break your bubble or be rude, but this has been discussed many times over, and again i do not make the rules :P


Yes I realized you guys have great points for nice trophy’s. I saw his whole Bowzon decked out fully geared top perfects lol that whole char count as a trophy char.
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Nov 27 2022 05:07pm
Quote (c1nascimento @ Nov 27 2022 03:43pm)
Ok so basically rare/crafted items worth 50-100k+++ each.

Then it was my mistake here.

Just because an item is worth a lot doesn't automatically mean its a trophy. However trophies are typically worth a lot, due to them being so rare. I'm not trying to be a jerk, you have a really nicely built PvM Bowa, probably one of the best on D2R so far. However I just don't think it falls under the "trophy" category.
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Nov 27 2022 05:12pm
you grand charms confuse me. better to have life or frw i feel. and no ring has repl life, and no faith shadow. i think if the grandcharms were different it would be alot better.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 27 2022 05:15pm
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Nov 27 2022 05:55pm
A good start! The build looks more suitable to a hybrid build...not peak bowa. The closest trophy is the p def 12045 but that’s far from a trophy, even in d2r.

For what’s next:
Better rings
Better javs
Better circ swaps
Better shield
Better armor (100 life 160/60 not something much worse than lowest rolled Fort)
A trophy ow belt
Better inv

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you grand charms confuse me. better to have life or frw i feel. and no ring has repl life, and no faith shadow. i think if the grandcharms were different it would be alot better.


Its mostly PVM setup, on PVM GMB Faith is best, on PVP Mat Faith IMO.

Grand charms are BiS for PVM, for PVP sure small charms 3max/20life or 3max/3frw are better.

On PVM for telebowa best setup is 8-9 GC 14max & 9-10 SC 3max/20life.
For runner bowa just switch all SC 3max/20life to 3max/3frw, and change a few GC into SC 3max/3frw too.

Quote (aidanobsidian)
Better armor (100 life 160/60 not something much worse than lowest rolled Fort)


Saying 120 max is worse than lowest rolled Forth is not exactly true.
Sure, in terms of defence, Fort is better (chill armor + 30@), but in terms of damage, 120 max gives +8-9 k DPS over Forti.
And you don't really need that Fort defence stats in most zones.

60/160 would only make sense for WF, which would be still worse than GMB Faith, and for Faith 60/160 is worse than Forti.
Maybe 15/115 could be an option, though what i would LOVE to have is 4 rare jewels 18min18max :D but i think noone ever got any with such roll.

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Better rings


For these im hunting all the time

And the rest - yeah, some nice rare diadem would be cool for pvp

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Just because an item is worth a lot doesn't automatically mean its a trophy. However trophies are typically worth a lot, due to them being so rare. I'm not trying to be a jerk, you have a really nicely built PvM Bowa, probably one of the best on D2R so far. However I just don't think it falls under the "trophy" category.


Sure i get it, np

This post was edited by c1nascimento on Nov 27 2022 06:03pm
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Nov 27 2022 06:24pm
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Nov 27 2022 08:38am)
Should post in the nothing really fancy room

This is the trophy room


:rofl:
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Nov 29 2022 02:38pm
Even scarab husk is not perfect. I heard bots shop 4os/100l elite armor in a few days.
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Nov 29 2022 05:06pm
what's multi and ga dam?
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2.500-14.000 GA
1.500-10.000 Multi

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Even scarab husk is not perfect. I heard bots shop 4os/100l elite armor in a few days.


It is 1 point of perf def though. ^^

Difference in price between 99l & 100l is pretty crazy, and 120max, as much as i like it for dmg output, ain't worth it.

Imagine Archon Plate with 4s/100l and max def, now that would be something.

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