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Quote (Atter @ May 21 2022 09:50pm)
Thought this sword for ubers my bad


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Why do we have the notion that if it's usable it's still not a trophy, but when something is obviously better then it's not comparable to the so called trophy?

I guess I wouldn't know, I only play casters.
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If that was fools could be useful becuz of the extra deadly strike from hl.


Your one can't beat botdz
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useless since botd and grief
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Quote (Tier1 @ May 21 2022 11:22am)
Can hit 3 frame Fury after 2.4 with additional 20 ias on 33 werewolf. Being able to utilize max/ar/life scs over Shapeshift lifers

https://i.imgur.com/kSrlrds.png



Ebotdz is significantly better than this.

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Quote (Koston @ May 21 2022 02:31pm)
Is this something that's commonly said about about trophies? Grief isn't a trophy, everyone can make one, and you're not allowed to use it in any GM duels whatsoever. So if you have the #1 GM cruel weapon for a class, that's not a trophy because a non-usable widely accessible runeword is better? I mean, I don't post here often but that logic is absolutely insane to me. GL here though



Ebotdz > this
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But there is a D2R tag and a D2 tag. Doesn’t seem that’s the case or logical



EbotdZ > this

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That isn't even true, half of the shit that gets posted in here from LoD is an import that did not originally spawn on the game itself. They were imported in. The trophy room bothers me because D2R is an entirely different game where we are unlikely to see anything like LoD had, especially its imports. Therefore, it's not fair to judge to the same standard. If you're comparing this to the 40ias/450ed/2 os eth phase blades that were imported on LoD, then it will be a 0/10 rating obviously, but your reference point makes zero logical sense. If you're looking at this item solely from a D2R standpoint and not using an entirely different video game (i.e., LoD) to judge it, then this is an 8-9/10 realistically - it can have a whopping 50 more ED and potentially other good stats such as more attack rating or max/min damage, so sure, not a 10/10, but a bit less. It's not a 0.

Judging D2R items by LoD standards is inherently unfair and dumb. Makes zero sense. Two entirely different video games, one existed for 20 years with mods and hacks, this is a brand new video game with a clean slate and no or very little known/public exploits like importing. These video games are not remotely the same but keep judging items by LoD standards as if that makes any logical sense whatsoever.



Lol. The fact that Grief can't be used in gm PVP is *what makes this a trophy*. You are also posting items in here that have zero use/application (i.e., random 2 soc bow with 400 ed) where unique items that can be used automatically outclass it: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=94636491&f=103 Do you think your posts in this thread that make zero sense or threads you create make the trophy room a cool forum to visit?



Ebotdz > this
Quote (Jackalkix @ May 21 2022 02:50pm)
grief-cant-be-used/10



Ebotdz > this




Pathetic you melee only people don’t even know this.
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Ebotdz is significantly better than this.

Charsi



EBotdZ needs 100 additional ias on fury to make 3 frame. And a 3 frame wep usually takes the 4 frame. But hey ignorance is welcome here as well


Ebotd Warspike would be more comparable

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Quote (Tier1 @ May 21 2022 04:18pm)
EBotdZ needs 100 additional ias on fury to make 3 frame. And a 3 frame wep usually takes the 4 frame. But hey ignorance is welcome here as well


Ebotd Warspike would be more comparable



365 average damage on ebotdz vs 255 average damage on this. Meaning ebotdz does almost 50% more damage than this. Not to mention higher scaling with ED and DS.

While it is possible to reach a higher frame rate on this sword, you aren’t attacking 50% faster than zerker. Which is what you would need for the damage to be equal.

And this doesn’t even account for Eth rune which is 12.5% less defense in pvp. Or that ebotdz has slightly more AR Than this. Or the fact that ebotdz has 30 vit and 20 more Str than this. Of the fact that zerker has more range adder than this.


It’s clear I’m not the ignorant one here.
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